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Feb 21, 2025
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2024 Fourth Quarter Investor Conference
February 21, 2025
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Safe Harbor Notice
- Walsin’s statements of its current expectations are forward looking subject to significant risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from these forward-looking statements.
▪ Except as required by law, Walsin assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise.
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Agenda
▪ 4Q24 Financial Results
▪ 1Q25 Outlook
▪ Q&A
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Income Statement
◼ EPS is NT$0.69 for FY24, and the cash dividend is scheduled to be NT$0.50 per share.
| In NT$ billions unless otherwise noted | 4Q24 | 3Q24 4Q23 4Q24 over 3Q24 4Q24 over 4Q23 FY24 FY23 |
|---|---|---|
| Operating Revenue | 46.7 | 43.8 43.3 7% 8% 179.3 189.8 |
| Gross Margin | 5.1% | 5.9% 5.6% (0.8%) (0.5%) 6.5% 7.6% |
| Operating Expenses | 2.5 | 2.4 2.4 5% 2% 9.5 8.3 |
| Operating Margin | (0.2%) | 0.5% 0.0% (0.7%) (0.2%) 1.2% 3.2% |
| Non-Operating Income and Expenses Net Profit Attributable to Owners |
(0.8) (0.6) |
(0.1) (0.3) 455% 180% 0.3 1.2 0.4 (0) (263%) 1942% 2.8 5.1 |
| Profit Margin | (1.3%) | 0.8% (0.1%) (2.1%) (1.2%) 1.6% 2.7% |
| EPS (NT Dollar) EBITDA1 |
(0.15) 2.4 |
0.09 (0.02) (0.24) (0.13) 0.69 1.31 3.0 3.4 (20%) (29%) 12.1 15.8 |
1 EBITDA= Operating Income + Depreciation+ Amortization + Cash Dividend from Investment under Equity Method
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4Q24 Operating Revenue by Business Groups (BG)
(In NT$ billions)
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4Q24 Over 3Q24
70 15%
2.36
8.5% 10%
60 6.4%
5.6% 5.9%
5.1%
5%
0% 48 0.96
50 47
43 44 0%
0%
41 0.24 Copper
0.02
0% 40 26% 26% -5 % Wire
25% Stainless Resources Cable Borrego
23% 28% Steel
0%
-10%
30 20% (0.61)
0% 21%
17% 17%
22% 4Q24 Over 4Q23
-15%
0%
20 2.20
2.03
0% -20%
57%
51% 52% 51%
0% 10 50%
-25%
0%
- -30% 0.25 Copper
0% 4Q23 1Q24 2Q24 3Q24 4Q24 Wire Borrego
Stainless
0% Resources Cable
Stainless Steel Resource Wire and Cable Steel (0.17)
Others Gross Margin
(0.89)
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4Q24 Operating Revenue and Gross Margin by BG
(In NT$ billions)
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Stainless Steel Resource Wire and Cable
40 25 25
11%
35 10% 10% 10% 10%
9%
7% 20
5% 5% 6% 20 5%
30 4% 3%
1%
25 -3% 15
15
20
10
10
15
5
10
5
5
0
4Q23 1Q24 2Q24 3Q24 4Q24
0 0
Cable revenue
4Q23 1Q24 2Q24 3Q24 4Q24 4Q23 1Q24 2Q24 3Q24 4Q24
Copper wire revenue
Revenue Gross margin Revenue Gross margin Gross margin
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4Q24 Net Profit by BG
(In NT$ billions)
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Manufacturing Segment Long-Term Investments and Others
1.4
1.4
1.2
1.2
1.0
1.0
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.8
.6
.6
.4
.4
.2 .2
.0 .0
(.2) (.2)
(.4) (.4)
(.6) (.6)
(.8) (.8)
(1.0) (1.0)
4Q23 1Q24 2Q24 3Q24 4Q24 4Q23 1Q24 2Q24 3Q24 4Q24
Stainless Steel Wire and Cable Resource Long-term Investment Others
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Balance Sheets & Key Indices
| Selected Items from Balance Sheets | 4Q24 | 3Q24 4Q23 |
|---|---|---|
| (In NT$ billions) | Amount % |
Amount % Amount % |
| Cash and cash equivalents Accounts Receivable Inventory 1 Long-Term Investments2 Property, Plant, and Equipment3 |
10.8 4% 15.5 6% 47.3 17% 58.5 21% 118.2 43% |
8.5 3% 16.3 6% 15.5 6% 15.9 6% 44.5 17% 36.7 14% 61.7 24% 69.8 26% 114.6 44% 111.1 42% |
| Total Assets | 273.5 100% |
262.3 100% 266.9 100% |
| Current Liabilities Long-Term Interest-Bearing Debts |
59.8 22% 50.2 18% |
53.7 20% 50.8 19% 44.1 17% 47.9 18% |
| Total Liabilities | 126.1 46% |
112.6 43% 112.6 42% |
| Total Shareholders’ Equity | 147.4 54% |
149.7 57% 154.4 58% |
| Key Indices Average Collection Days Average Turnover Days Current Ratio Ratio of Long-Term Capital to Non- Current Assets 4 |
30 87 1.4 1.1 |
36 40 89 77 1.5 1.6 1.1 1.1 |
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1 Inventory includes prepayment for purchases
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2 Long-term investments includes prepayments for investments
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3 Property, Plant, and Equipment (PPE) includes intangible assets
4 Ratio of long-term capital to Non-Current Assets = (Total Shareholders’ Equity + Non-Current Liabilities) / Non-Current Assets
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Cash Flows
| (In NT$ billions) | 4Q24 | 3Q24 4Q23 |
|---|---|---|
| Beginning Balance | 8.5 | 12.1 13.5 |
| Cash from Operating Activities Capital Expenditure Acquisition or Disposal of Long-Term Investments Acquisition of Subsidiaries Long-Term Borrowings Security Deposit Long and Short-Term Borrowing Cash Dividends Paid Others |
3.7 (2.3) 0.7 (4.9) (4.4) 9.8 - (0.3) |
1.5 13.4 (3.2) (3.8) (0.7) 0.9 - (1.3) - - 3.2 (3.0) (4.4) - - (3.4) |
| Ending Balance | 10.8 | 8.5 16.3 |
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1Q25 Outlook
▪ Stainless Steel BG
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In Taiwan, raw material prices remained stable in 1Q25, driving increased downstream orders, with operating performance expected to surpass 4Q24.
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In China, strong domestic policies has supported solid stainless steel orders in 1Q25.
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In Europe and the U.S., the Christmas holiday impacted 4Q24 performance. However, following DMV’s merger, the anticipated synergies are expected to gradually materialize in 1Q25.
▪ Resource BG
- LME price remains weak, while ore premiums for nickel and shipping surcharges have yet to decline. The market is in a state of adjustment, leading to a cautious outlook for 1Q25.
▪ Wire and Cable BG
- Taipower’s high-voltage cable orders remain strong, while the private sector is impacted by Taiwan's central bank policies, slowing the pace of property developers in increasing their demand. Sales for 1Q25 are expected to remain similar to the previous quarter but show year-over-year.
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Please dial +886 2 3396 1191
then press 3217021 # to join our Q&A session
Thank you
[email protected] http://www.walsin.com/
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