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T-Mobile US, Inc. — Call Transcript 2019
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Filed by T-Mobile US, Inc.
pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act of 1933
and deemed filed pursuant to Rule 14a-12
under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
Subject Company: Sprint Corporation
Commission File No.: 001-04721
The following is an excerpt of a transcript of the T-Mobile US, Inc. Q2 2019 Earnings Call:
CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS
Braxton Carter - EVP, CFO
Dave Miller - EVP, General Counsel & Secretary
John Legere - CEO
Matt Staneff - EVP, CMO
Mike Sievert - President & COO
Neville Ray - EVP, CTO
Nils Paellmann - VP, IR
CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS
Ana Goshko BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - MD
Brett Feldman Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division - Equity Analyst
Colby Synesael Cowen and Company, LLC, Research Division - MD and Senior Research Analyst
Craig Moffett MoffettNathanson LLC - Founding Partner
John Hodulik UBS Investment Bank, Research Division - MD, Sector Head of the United States Communications Group and Telco & Pay TV Analyst
Jonathan Chaplin New Street Research LLP - US Team Head of Communications Services
Mike Rollins Citigroup Inc, Research Division - MD and U.S. Telecoms Analyst
Phil Cusick JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division - MD and Senior Analyst
Ric Prentiss Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - Head of Telecommunication Services Equity Research
Simon Flannery Morgan Stanley, Research Division - MD
Drew FitzGerald Wall Street Journal
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PRESENTATION
John Legere - CEO
Im sure you all saw the headlines out of the Department of Justice today that we took a huge step forward in our efforts to gain regulatory approval for the New T-Mobile by entering into a consent decree with the DOJ and by announcing several agreements with DISH. Let me just take a moment and give you a little color on this truly monumental news.
First, the consent decree with the DOJ removes a huge hurdle for this merger to proceed while delivering on the key benefits of the merger that we announced in April 2018. We are going to create a bigger and bolder competitor with a transformative 5G network while delivering an unprecedented $43 billion in synergies. Its important to point out that the target synergies, profitability and long-term cash generation have not changed for the New T-Mobile. I want to say that while this process took longer than we had hoped, our goal was to ensure that the DOJs concerns were addressed and make sure that we still deliver on every aspect of the synergies we promised to unlock, and we did just that.
Ive been spending a lot of my time in Washington, D.C., and I want to personally thank the teams at the DOJ and the FCC.
We also announced today that we have reached agreements with DISH to divest all of Sprints prepaid businesses at close, including Boost Mobile, Virgin Mobile and Sprint-branded prepaid customers, as well as Sprints 800 megahertz spectrum licenses after a 3-year period for aggregate proceeds of $5 billion. Importantly, we are going to keep Sprints entire 2.5 gigahertz and PCS spectrum, which is so important for fully realizing the 5G efficiencies promised by the merger.
Additionally, upon the closing of the divestiture transaction, New T-Mobile will enter into commercial arrangements that will support the transferred prepaid customers and provide DISH wireless customers access to the New T-Mobile network for 7 years. DISH will also have an option to take on leases for certain cell sites and retail locations that are decommissioned by the New T-Mobile, and both parties agreed to discuss how we would get access to some or all of their 600 spectrum to use on our T-Mobile network.
The transaction with DISH are contingent upon the successful closing of our merger with Sprint. Now this is an incredibly important step forward for the New T-Mobile. Were ready to bring this supercharged Un-carrier to consumers and businesses across the country, and this milestone brings us much closer to making that vision a reality for customers everywhere.
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As a reminder, we already got approval from CFIUS and Team Telecom back in December, and we have received favorable outcomes from 18 of the 19 required state utility commissions, with only the California PUC still outstanding. Very importantly, our commitments to the FCC have resulted in statements of support for our merger by FCC Chairman Ajit Pai, and Commissioners Carr and ORielly.
These commitments include: covering 97% of the U.S. population with 5G in 3 years; and 99% in 6 years; leveraging our 5G network to offer a fast and reliable alternative for in-home broadband, including in rural America where its most needed; divesting Sprints Boost prepaid business to a serious and credible buyer; and in addition, we affirmed the pricing commitment that ensures the same or better rate plan for the first 3 years following the merger. We remain confident and optimistic about the remaining regulatory steps. We are continuing to work the process with the California PUC and continue to be willing to engage with state AGs who have weighed in on both sides of this transaction, including the state AGs that are party to the recently filed lawsuit.
The completion of our merger with Sprint remains subject to the remaining regulatory approvals and other customary closing conditions. We expect to receive final federal regulatory approval in Q3 and currently anticipate that the merger will be permitted to close in the second half of 2019. Our goal has remained consistent throughout, to continue to share the pro-consumer and pro-competitive benefits of this deal with the American consumer.
We also successfully participated in recent FCC millimeter wave auctions in which we spent $842 million to more than quadruple our average nationwide millimeter wave holdings. We think this spectrum will be a critical ingredient in the 5G layer cake, combining wide channels of low-, mid- and high-band spectrum will be a key differentiator for New T-Mobile.
The pending combination with Sprint means that well be able to create a future that is even more exciting for American consumers everywhere, and were pleased with the agreements announced today.
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS
Brett Feldman - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division - Equity Analyst
Congratulations on the news today. Two quick questions about the deal. The first, it looks like DISH has proposed new buildout conditions on their existing spectrum with the FCC. Im curious whether any element of your agreement with DISH is contingent on them actually getting those modifications? And then the second is, do you intend to support the Sprint MVNO agreement with Altice on the New T-Mobile network?
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John Legere - CEO
Start.
Mike Sievert - President & COO
Sure. And Brett, Im not sure I understood your question about whats contingent upon the DISH buildouts. Maybe you could go back to it.
Obviously, part of this arrangement is that DISH has new requirements placed on them to build out against the spectrum by the FCC and the DOJ. Theyre a party to this consent decree. And I think thats really great news for consumers that theyre going to get after building out a network using all that spectrum. That entire arrangement was and is contingent upon this announcement that was made today. Is that what you were asking?
Brett Feldman - Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Research Division - Equity Analyst
Thats you answered the question. Thank you.
John Legere - CEO
I might just say on that, too, Mike. DISHs press release and their filings were very comprehensive. So if you get a chance to look through those. One of the ways I look at this is if you look at the full utilization of the 2.5 that were acquiring from Sprint as well as the unused spectrum of DISH, this is a great day for American networks. Itd be about 150 megahertz at least of spectrum that will now be put to use that, before these sets of agreements, were not going to be. And certainly, DISHs commitments, which have penalties associated with them, are a big part of it. So Id read those filings and certainly, DISH can comment on those.
Mike Sievert - President & COO
And Brett, your second question was about the Altice arrangement, yes, all of the existing MVNO agreements from both companies are going to be inherited by the new company, and were really pleased to support all those. So theyll carry forward. We wont be killing or canceling any MVNO deals.
And one of the things weve said all along is that this new company is a bigger friend to MVNOs than the standalones. I mean the massive capacity that we are creating with this new network creates the incentive for us to want to be a provider to MVNOs.
Now those arrangements, each have different durations and they have different pricing aspects to them, well just carry those forward through to their expirations. And then, obviously, a piece of this is that there will be an opportunity for them to go forward throughout the 7 years.
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John Legere - CEO
Yes. And weve said throughout the process, too, when you invest in the network and you have an eightfold increase in capacity, you have a stadium thats got a lot of empty seats, and we are we therefore cherish the relationships with MVNOs as a way to have the utilization on our network continue.
And theres been questions already today, I can tell you that the agreements that weve struck at our current network are easily handled with a small percentage of our network. And as the network grows over the next 3 years, they become a de minimis part of our overall broad network capability. And were very careful about that. Everything weve done, everything weve negotiated has been hinged around ensuring that the build commitments that weve made to the FCC and to the country can be attained. And I can reinforce strongly that thats the case.
Operator
Well take our next question of John Hodulik of UBS.
John Hodulik - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division - MD, Sector Head of the United States Communications Group and Telco & Pay TV Analyst
Congratulations on the news today. My question is about the MVNO agreement. John, I did read the 8-K that came out at DISH. Was there anything else you could tell us in regard to a couple areas of that MVNO? First of all, it mentions a phase approach for both the MVNO and MNO. So what thats referring to? Anything regarding sort of pricing or the percentage of capacity, which you were just referring to? And then a little later in the document, it talks about restrictions on DISHs ability to wholesale or bundle that service. Just specifically, is that are those restrictions related to cable companies?
John Legere - CEO
Yes, John, were going to carefully wade through some of these answers. And its not to be evasive. Its only that were only able to speak today about items that were part of the filings that people have made in the last 2 hours. And its unclear how much of that is actually covered. We wont be discussing pricing on the MVNO. We wont be discussing in too much detail any of the restrictions, only to reinforce that were very comfortable with the pricing and its accretive effect to our business and that the protections associated with it, again, are part of whats necessary for us to make sure that we move forward with the real ambition that we have.
But I dont know, Mike, do you want to comment on any of the other piece?
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Mike Sievert - President & COO
Yes. Only to agree with what you just said. A couple of things. One is, yes, this is a complex arrangement thats going to be in place for 7 years. So we really had to design it carefully to meet the needs of everybody involved. It definitely does great work to set up DISH to enable their use of all that spectrum to enable them while theyre building a network and to give them a very competitive access to our nationwide network, to your question in 2 forms, through a nationwide MVNO and unlike other MVNOs, as they build out their own network to be able to access ours through a roaming arrangement as well. So thats a terrific enablement for them as a new competitor.
On the other hand, its also designed to make sure that theres nothing in it that thwarts our ability to meet the commitments that weve made to the FCC and to our investors about building out and leading the 5G revolution in this country. So were very excited about what were able to do. As Braxton pointed out, every aspect of our business plan and our synergy plan is intact because weve designed these agreements to do that.
As John said, this is also an arrangement that will be accretive to our business because the pricing allows us to monetize DISHs access of our network.
You asked about capacity. Ill just tell you that the arrangement has been designed with certain safeguards to make sure that T-Mobiles commitments that weve made around the amount of capacity that we will have out there for our customers is in place. Our customers will be able to experience nationwide speeds for 99% of Americans in excess of 100 megabits per second. Every aspect of the commitments that weve made to the FCC are still our plan and have been safeguarded with the arrangement that weve made with DISH. At the same time, it enables them to be a competitor and to pursue a very, very ambitious growth plan. So were pleased with that.
John Legere - CEO
Yes. And John, Im not usually the one, especially in the last year, Ive been rather quiet, to be positive on others capability. But I would say, its very clear that with the spectrum that DISH has, with the acquisition of Boost, with the MVNO arrangement, that the transition services agreement while they build out their network, with the ability to get some of the decommissioned towers and stores, DISH has a real significant opportunity to be a very credible disruptive fourth wireless carrier. And that certainly is something that Im sure AT&T and Verizon should keep an eye on. But its not to the detriment of our ability to achieve our ambitions.
So but I do see them having all of the tools in the toolkit, including, from what I see and hear and watch, the motivation as a company, and Charlie himself, to really become a disruptive player.
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Operator
Well take our next question from Drew FitzGerald of the Wall Street Journal.
Drew FitzGerald Wall Street Journal
Two questions. So what agreements, if any, are in place now on whether the deal will close or not during state litigation? And John, if you could just tell me a little bit more about how this came together when you first talked to Charlie about putting this together potentially? I think youd said earlier in the year that well, you had some choice words for DISH and what it was doing.
Do you and Sprint have any agreements in place with the state plaintiffs, this the Democratic state AGs, to either close or not close while the litigations ongoing?
Mike Sievert - President & COO
I see. Right. No. No, our intention is not to close while the litigation is ongoing. So weve agreed made a set of agreements with plaintiffs around how the trial will proceed and when it will proceed. Theres another proceeding next week where well be meeting with the judge. So that process is unfolding. But no, we dont have an intention to close while its pending.
John Legere - CEO
Yes. And Drew, we certainly have had conversations with many of the states involved. I think its very important for people to understand that the suit filed by the attorney generals happened before the knowledge of the actions that the DOJ were going to take, which certainly will solve many, if not all, of their concerns came out. So todays information is very pertinent input to them, and well be working very closely with them. Before their suit, we had already started working quite aggressively with many states on what are the things that are important to you and to your state. And frankly, they have urged us to continue that process even up through now. So that will be next course of business.
Im very confident that what were going to do, especially if you think of some of the big concerns that they had. For example, with todays announcement, there is no consolidation of share in the prepaid industry, which was a big concern of theirs. And then the buildout commitments are very important to many states, and they want to understand whats important to them, this lifeline issue. So well continue those conversations.
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And Im very confident that we will find what is necessary for them to join in. As you probably also saw, a number of state attorney generals joined as party to this DOJ action today, which is just a start.
As far as the conversations go, you know we know DISH and have for years. So theres not really ever a start to conversations with DISH. Weve had conversations before. We had conversations just in passing after the deal was announced. But this process has been one of a tremendous amount of work, first with the FCC, getting closure, making commitments, and then with the DOJ. And in the DOJ process was where we more rigorously got involved with DISH. And then we had agreements pending with DISH and then had further conversations with the DOJ, which culminated today. So a long process but very thorough. Somewhat building on each other as each entity had significant things that were important to them. But to have now the 2 main federal agencies after the FCC files their order, approving and supporting, including the expert agency, I think thats an unprecedented level of support that bodes very well for ultimately the finalization and approval of this deal and it being permitted to close in the second half of this year.
Mike Sievert - President & COO
And weve not seen examples, anywhere in recent history, where, to Johns point, the expert agencies have weighed in the way the federal agencies now have where a deal has not ultimately closed, even if there were objections at the state level. So the fact that we now have federal support is a major, major milestone for this deal.
John Legere - CEO
And there hasnt been time today, Drew. But certainly, the messages were going to have to get back to that are important to the constituents are the jobs are going to go up every day in this new company. The prices will not go up, competition will go up, the buildout will be comprehensive and on time and cover 99%. So those are the messages we have to get back to, and those are the messages that were of concern to many of the states that were party to this. And they can all be answered.
Drew FitzGerald Wall Street Journal
Okay. And one more question. Just at some point though between you and DISH, you guys went from merger opponents in this proceeding to at least exploring a potential partnership. How did that conversation go?
John Legere - CEO
Again, its a continuum, and life brings strange bed fellows. So remember, were not partners with DISH here, right? There are things that weve agreed to, arrangements and a deal that is mutually beneficial that helps enhance the competition and allows this deal to go forward. So its
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far different than a merger. Its an agreement to divest to a serious and credible buyer, which DISH was concluded to be. It happened to be simultaneous with other discussions DISH was having with the FCC that this enhanced. Weve both made significant commitments with financial penalties around this. And then, of course, were going to help support the transition with an MVNO for DISH and a transition services agreement.
So its a business arrangement and one that I think took a long time to get through but were quite pleased with, and Im sure they are as well.
Mike Sievert - President & COO
So Roger Cheng asks, Hey, John and T-Mobile, can you better define what robust access to your network means when it comes to DISH? Im sure hes talking about the MVNO deal. Will it have full access to your 4G and 5G network?
I dont know. Neville, do you want to talk about the approach that were taking?
Neville Ray - EVP, CTO
Yes, I mean, the answer is quick and easy on that one. Yes. So DISH and other MVNOs obviously will have access to not just the great LTE network that we have in the ground but the great 5G network thats coming superfast. So yes, DISH will have full access to 5G capabilities.
Mike Sievert - President & COO
Well, Piecyk asked, Theres also reference to T-Mobile in that release to T-Mobile possibly leasing 600 megahertz spectrum from DISH. Does this also mean the FCC is okay if DISH leases spectrum to others?
On the second part, youll have to talk to DISH about that. I think there is some flexibility there. But this is an actually really interesting topic. We werent able to conclude it during the talks that led up today, but both parties are interested in this. DISH happens to own 600 megahertz spectrum that theyre not using. Theyre going to be building out against it but its going to take them some time.
Meanwhile, as John reported today, we have 22 million handsets already on our 600 megahertz spectrum thats been rolled out to more than 150 million POPs already. So its a nationwide availability. And so we obviously do have some interest in leasing that from them for a period of time, maybe a few years, that would help accelerate our network transition from Sprint over to T-Mobile. So thats of interest to the parties. We agreed to sit down and roll up our sleeves and talk about it. But there wasnt anything that came to conclusion in the agreements that were announced today.
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John Legere - CEO
Yes, and I think these are questions that will get fully vetted over the coming weeks. There were a lot of this went on for so long. There were a lot of rumors and speculations about what might be happening. I think we dispelled one already, which was that we did not divest any of the critical 2.5 spectrum thats core to our network. So we got that one down. There was a lot of talk about us doing a network hosting or sharing arrangement with DISH, and were not.
What this simply means is DISH has 600 megahertz spectrum thats not being used. And for a period of time, it would sit there and not be used and provide no benefit to customers or value to them. What weve agreed to do is see if theres a mutually agreeable arrangement, price, through which we could lease on our network for our use, their spectrum, which would be beneficial it would enhance our network transition process. So this is a if theres something thats good for you and you agree, then you will lease their spectrum for a period of time at a price thats beneficial to you and accelerate your ability to do your network migration. Thats all that is. And certainly, its almost a who wouldnt agree to have that conversation? So theres no hidden backstop here about us standing up their network for them in this case.
Neville Ray - EVP, CTO
Can I take Bill Hos one there? So Bill Ho is asking about millimeter wave. What are your thoughts of putting your millimeter wave portfolio into service? Whats the fixed wireless access for you, timing, clearing challenges, if any?
So just try and tie some of the comments youve heard all through the call today. I mean our goal and ambition with New T-Mobile is to combine low-, mid- and high-band assets together. Thats always been our story. We think thats absolutely critical for the type of 5G service that customers can use on a ubiquitous basis, both in urban, suburban and rural environments. And you need all those elements, all of those pieces of the puzzle to come together the right way. So we had a very successful recent auction outcome primarily on 24 gigahertz. We are already we have deployed 28 gigahertz. Youve seen that. We are the first wireless carrier to put out millimeter wave coverage maps. Pretty exciting what you can see with millimeter wave in Manhattan.
But I think everybody understands now that you cannot take a millimeter wave portfolio across the 3-plus million square miles of the U.S. It just doesnt work. Its not economic.
I mean you can absolutely use millimeter wave where there are large concentrations of people, where the population density exists. And thats always been part of our plan.
The 24 gigahertz weve recently assumed is going to take some time to work through the dialogue on power limits and some other pieces, but radio needs to come, handsets needs to come. Its going to take a little bit of time. But clearly, we have assets where were already utilizing and deploying bringing 5G service to customers with.
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Super excited for me and my team about whats happening on 600. Youve heard the stats and numbers from both John and Mike. The 150-plus million customers that we now cover or not customers, I should say, I wish they were, the POPs, future customers with our 600 megahertz, thats a 50% improvement quarter-on-quarter. So when you think about the pace at which we are moving and rolling out our low-band 600 megahertz footprint, its truly exciting. And we are going to bring 5G service, not fake 5GE, not millimeter wave in a few hotspots, we are going to bring large, very large scale coverage on 5G to the U.S. this year and nationwide as we move into 2020. So super exciting and putting all the spectrum together is an absolute dream for me and my team and we look forward to bringing all the power and capability that the New T-Mobile network can bring to the U.S. consumer.
Mike Rollins - Citigroup Inc, Research Division - MD and U.S. Telecoms Analyst
Two, if I could. First, could you give us an update on how youre approaching the integration process and some of the steps youll take once youre able to close? And then did that integration process get impacted by any of the divestitures or agreements with the DOJ? And then separately, can you give us a little bit more detail of how the potential transfer of cell sites and retail stores to DISH could work post close? And if theres any financial impact or cost avoidance for T-Mobile?
Mike Sievert - President & COO
Got it. I could start with the integration piece. Were really pleased with how its going. Ill tell you that weve had a little more time to plan this than we would have expected when we launched our integration plans. And thats generally speaking been frustrating, but on the other hand, its given us a fantastic chance to be very, very thoughtful and get out of the gates quickly.
As Braxton and John reinforced in their remarks, what we have today is a plan that is fully intact versus all of the goals and ambitions for long-term profitability, enterprise value and synergy attainment that we laid out for you in April of last year. And were very, very pleased with that. Whats different now versus April from last year is that, thats backed by detailed operational plans in every function of this company. And so were planning to get out of the gates very quickly and hit the ground running.
Some asked us, well, how is that going to look? And you even have Ive got a Tweet here from Roger Cheng asking, Hey, some are talking about this deal giving some price stabilization. But does that mean that the era of lower rate plans, aggressive BOGO offers and other perks are over? in his Tweet? And these are the kinds of questions and I know he asked it for almost to get this reaction. These are the kind of questions that dumbfound us as management team
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leading the Un-carrier. We are the competition. Were planning to take these capabilities of enhanced capacity and lower cost and go right after AT&T and Verizon like theyve never seen before. I think anybody who supports this merger is going to be very proud of what that looks like in the early months and throughout the entire period. Because we can do that and hit these goals that we laid out for you last April simultaneously. And thats because of the unique set of capabilities that we have by bringing these 2 companies together.
You asked the second question about the transfer and how that would work. Think about it this way. Our plan, Nevilles plan for synergy attainment has always involved, as we laid out for you over a year ago, turning down tens of thousands of cell sites as we integrate these 2 networks into 1 seamless network. And what were doing is saying, look, any site that we are planning to abandon anyway, its just in our plan to abandon anyway. That site is something that wed happily make available to DISH. And we also said thered be at least 20,000 of those.
Neville Ray - EVP, CTO
Thats right.
Mike Sievert - President & COO
And so not all of those have assignable leases. If they are assignable, then well happily assign them. If not, we will sort of get out of the way. But its a great enablement for a company to move very quickly, and that was certainly the governments goal, was to enable DISH to move quickly. But its a pretty straightforward thing that involves us getting out of the way on the tens of thousands of sites that we were planning to decommission anyway.
John Legere - CEO
This, Mike, this aha moment and decisions about what were going to do about it started several times sitting, testifying in the Senate and Congress and being surrounded by people that were just dumbfoundedly not listening to the fact that jobs are going up and prices will go down and competition will go up. And if it wasnt clear to me then its painfully clear to me now that we will, early and often, make it clear what the behavior of the Un-carrier will be post this transaction.
When this transaction closes, we will waste no time making it very clear what this network capability that will going to be built is going to be used to do, and therell be no doubt about it. And it is, as Mike said, its a bit dumbfounding to think that weve decided to go and build this network and go through this merger so that we can become the basic, lazy, fat, dumb and arrogant players that we were born to teach how to behave. We want to continue their education in a major way. And thats core to what were going to do with the 5G capability.
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Braxton Carter - EVP, CFO
Mike, one thing that on your question on the financial impact, weve been very clear, synergies are fully intact; the financial and cash flow components that we communicated at the beginning of the merger, fully intact. But theres a silver lining here on the divestiture, and thats were going to have lower gross debt, lower net debt and lower leverage going into T-Mobile.
Our current modeling now shows on a reported EBITDA standpoint, max peak leverage of 2.5x. And thats a significant improvement by about 0.4 turn of leverage than we would have been, and theres a couple of factors there. The prepaid divestiture is cash upfront. Certainly, the spectrum piece of it is deferred for 3 years, so thats not an immediate impact. But weve also significantly over performed at the T-Mobile level on cash generation, point to the results of the quarter, just astounding increases in the cash flow of the business. And all that combined is resulting in a very, very healthy capital structure and leverage profile for the new company, so a real silver lining there.
John Legere - CEO
Yes. And I think, Braxton, putting a financial lens on this, I see a few questions already in the lead up when you can when you have leaks for 5 months, a lot of people have a lot of pent-up questions. I saw one of them in the last couple of days. When they started to hear that the synergies would be intact and they were trying to answer how did we shift where the synergies came to keep the synergies intact. And very important to note is the synergies, the $43 billion are the same $43 billion exactly intact as they were. They were not coming from the areas of the business that were in this transaction.
Another way to think about so youve got the synergies, $43 billion, you understand how to execute against them. Then youve got several things. Youve got a transaction where Boost becomes an MVNO stream to us, which certainly has positive financial implications for us. You have a transaction on spectrum that will either be at that value or if it doesnt take place, well have an option later on to sell at that price or to keep it. And youve got a yes, so youve got DISH, spectrum and MVNO that are all in and of themselves, positive to the financials of the company. So I think thats a very important analysis that Braxtons pointing out.
Operator
We will take our next question from Sheila Dang of Reuters.
Sheila Dang - Reuters
So can you talk about any concerns that you might have about other companies that could come in after the fact and partner with DISH to help them become a really competitive rival? Are there any limitations in place to kind of prevent that?
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John Legere - CEO
Do you want to start?
Mike Sievert - President & COO
Sure. Sheila, yes. This whole set of arrangements was designed to be for DISH. And DISH has committed to not only build the network but launch services in support of that network right away.
In fact, one of their commitments is to launch not just to support Boost prepaid but to launch postpaid service. So theres plenty of robust competition coming from DISH, and its been designed to be DISH.
And thats important for us because as I said earlier, this has been also simultaneously designed to make sure that there isnt increased risk to T-Mobile being able to live up to its commitments, particularly our commitments to build this high-capacity network that results in the kinds of speeds and capabilities for our customers that weve not only promised our customers but now promised the federal regulatory agencies. And so its been designed to have both, protect our network while enabling the competition. And that doesnt mean its designed for that counterparty to turn around and resell it or to bundle it with other company services, et cetera. Its to enable them as a competitor.
That said, were interested in wholesaling directly to other parties. As weve said all along, this is a company that will be strategically very aligned with the idea of enabling partnerships with MVNOs, but we will be doing that directly.
John Legere - CEO
So this is one of those tricky areas where there hasnt been enough filing or disclosures on this topic for us to give specific details. So Ill stick to details to this. Your initial question is are you concerned. The answer is no. The transaction was defined in a way where we have protected our ability to run our network for the sake of our customers without any potential disruption. Weve protected ourselves for this to be for DISH. DISH has been protected in the fact that there are ways for them to raise financial capital, but we dont fear because theres tremendous protections for somebody entering a back door in a way that could be seen to turn this transaction into something other than it is. And the details on that, Im sure, at some point, will follow. But for today, I can just tell you, those were some of the latest items in the deal, and we feel very comfortable and all of our concerns were met in how we cut the transaction.
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Jonathan Chaplin - New Street Research LLP - US Team Head of Communications Services
So I get that theres no network sharing deal. But Im curious as to why? Was this a red line for you? It seems to us that the biggest issue in the court case is going to be how real DISH is and a network sharing deal may have gone a long way to alleviating the concerns that the states have.
John Legere - CEO
I think there are as many opinions as to what the states issues are that will be going forward. And I have to tell you again, I believe that the information that the DOJ has come out with today is important input that was not part of the decisions they made when they decided to create the lawsuit.
I would also say that weve met and spoke with many of the states, and many of the concerns are the same. Originally, there were concerns about consolidation in the prepaid segment and competition in the low end of the market, especially for the low-income consumer. There were always concerns on pricing that we have made very strong commitments on, buildout commitments, state-level buildout commitments that we continue to engage on and jobs, all of which we know are stories that we can answer.
Also on the DISH side, the question of that next marginal thing that would make people feel more comfortable with DISH. I think you need to understand. DISH has a tremendous amount of spectrum and now has a very fortified buildout commitment and a plan to do so. You have to assume that, thats going to take place. Theyll have 9.3 million customers. Theyll have a tremendous MVNO and a transition services agreement to go along with their other they have a good marketing engine and prowess, and they have ability to raise capital. So theyre a real player. Lets just be clear. Whether another item would make them stronger, those are things that they can do on their own somehow. But DISH is a viable, real, fourth, facilities-based wireless company at the end of this transaction, and nothing should be taken away from that. I think that will be important input.
I remain very confident that in discussing with the states the things that are of concern to them, we either have answered or can answer them. And that will be job one as we start to move from here.
Operator
Our next question comes from Craig Moffett of MoffettNathanson.
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Craig Moffett - MoffettNathanson LLC - Founding Partner
Just a clarification on the DOJ approval. Is the approval with the full support of the full staff of the DOJ to your knowledge? Or is this an approval directly from Bureau Chief Delrahim? And Im just wondering what, if anything, the staff has done? And what the role of the staff was in the final agreement?
John Legere - CEO
Yes.
Im sure you know the answers to the question that youre asking. Obviously, for the entire time that weve been working with the DOJ, the staff has been totally involved and detail involved in every piece of what weve done. And ultimately, how they get to a decision in the DOJ is very clear. Ultimately, the staff gives tremendous amounts of input, and then the antitrust head of the DOJ makes a decision based upon all those attributes. But yes, the every component of the DOJ was greatly, greatly involved in all aspects of not just discussing this deal, having opinions on it and putting the decisions together. Im not sure its a place where they take a vote, but neither is T-Mobile. So I dont think I answered your question.
Craig Moffett - MoffettNathanson LLC - Founding Partner
I think it probably answers it to the extent possible. There were reports, as you probably know, and weve never really known what reports in the press were true and which ones werent. But there were reports early on that the staff remained opposed initially after the FCC resale suggestion. And so I was wondering if the staff had come around to fully agreeing that the current structure of the deal satisfies all the concerns that they had.
John Legere - CEO
Yes. And I certainly dont have any information on that.***
Ric Prentiss - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - Head of Telecommunication Services Equity Research
Congrats, guys. As an ex-M&A guy in the industry who went to the dark side 23 years ago, I know how much work this has taken to get here, but no work is ever done. Can you update us on the California PUC status? Do you think youll get a decision from them here in August?
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Mike Sievert - President & COO
Thanks, Ric. We can turn to Dave for some details. But generally speaking, that process was on a pace and then that pace was changed at the time that the state lawsuits were filed last month. And so my expectation is that theyll be worked up on similar time frames because the pace that we were on was changed pretty significantly when the states filed their lawsuit, including the state of California.
Dave Miller - EVP, General Counsel & Secretary
Yes. Just to reiterate this is Dave. Yes, the administrative law judge in California had indicated that they would that he would rule by the end of June. And of course, events sort of superseded that. And we hope that the action occurs quickly, of course. Theres no specific time line.
Ric Hamilton Prentiss - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - Head of Telecommunication Services Equity Research
The second question, I want to come back to one question that Rollins had about the cost to achieve. If Im reading it right, DISH can take over some of your Sprint leases. Can they take them over as early as like the first, second or third year? And so could you actually exceed and do better than what your cost to achieve is then if they take on the leases sooner?
Mike Sievert - President & COO
Braxton?
Braxton Carter - EVP, CFO
Yes, first of all, we have to support the migration of the Sprint customers to the New T-Mobile network in a quality manner, in a way that doesnt impair and actually delights those customers as they come over on the network. And weve previously said that its going to take 3 years to get through that process. So theres very little opportunity on the cell sites in the early part of this process, so it would be definitely more back ended.
And very perceptive question, absolutely. I mean, ultimately, and its impossible to quantify at this point. But if Charlie does assume some of the lease liabilities, weve modeled full payout of the lease liability, and it would be net upside. But theres no way to really quantify it or model it at this point.
John Legere - CEO
Well, theres a way to quantify it. Theres no downside, right? Because importantly, when you sit there and you have a plan, which we have, a very specific plan for our network migration and certain times at which we will be decommissioning sites and turning them down, and you do or you dont have transfer rights associated with those but you have visibility into those and you, in effect, share that visibility. And/or if youve got transfer rights, you share that with Charlie. It cant hurt you. It can help him.
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On the retail side, you either have lease transfer rights or you dont. And if you do, you make those visible. But its all while executing our plan for our synergies exactly the way weve outlined them and letting, if possible, DISH get the benefit of some of that, that they need that we will no longer need. And yes, the intersection of some of those can be a cost benefit to us if, in fact, there is a piece of that would be beneficial for them to take up payments that we have a right to transfer instead of canceling them. So yes, its actually a win-win, and it will be up to them as to how much of it they choose to take. But theres no downside.
Ric Prentiss - Raymond James & Associates, Inc., Research Division - Head of Telecommunication Services Equity Research
One last quick one. Have you found any concessions that you had to move into the merger? I think there was $7 billion of potential concessions included in the merger agreement. It doesnt look like youve had to give up any concessions.
Mike Sievert - President & COO
When you say concessions, I mean, youre kind of asking about quantification of the impact of this set of divestitures. And as we look at the impact of the set of divestitures as well as the impact of a year of outstanding execution by this company going into the close, we look at the plan, and as Braxton said very clearly, we see a plan that has every bit of the long-term profits and cash generation and every bit of the EBITDA still intact. And that gives us a lot of confidence that weve got something here thats got a lot of momentum behind it.
John Legere - CEO
Yes. And if your question was aiming towards anything associated with the business combination arrangement with Sprint, we have updated that today, and theres been disclosures associated with the changes to that. So I think that speaks for itself.
But when you say concessions, concessions in general can be anything thats a deviation from what you had anticipated to take place in the transaction. We never anticipated to divest spectrum, for example. And although we get a good price for an optionality, that could be seen as a concession, et cetera. But were quite comfortable with that, and weve got a good-forward arrangement with the changes in the BCA as well.
Okay. Well take I think well take 1 or 2 more? Does that make sense with everybody here? Okay, lets keep going. Operator?
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Operator
Well take our next question from Colby Synesael of Cowen.
Colby Synesael - Cowen and Company, LLC, Research Division - MD and Senior Research Analyst
Two questions, if I may. In the Public Interest Statement last year, you had indicated that it was your goal to reach 9.5 million in-home broadband subs by 2024. Just curious if thats still the expectation. Just some color on your strategies as it relates to the in-home broadband. We really havent heard too much about that lately.
And then secondly, I know youve reiterated the $43 billion in NPV synergies. Just looking back to your previous disclosures, you mentioned about $4 billion coming from network, about $1 billion from sales, service and marketing, and another $1 billion from back office. Is that still the breakout that we should be expecting?
John Legere - CEO
You know its interesting, the Public Interest Statement just sounds like it was 100 years ago and certainly was the fundamental basis through which all these discussions took place. And in a smaller ramped-up version where the commitments that we made to the FCC, and when you look at the FCC commitments about coverage and 5G coverage and in-home broadband, youll see these notes. And Mike...
Mike Sievert - President & COO
And the answers are yes and yes. I mean yes to the 9.5 million and yes to the synergy breakdown, as Braxton was saying, being as we presented it when we launched the deal last April.
Braxton Carter - EVP, CFO
Absolutely.
Neville Ray - EVP, CTO
Let me just double down and say that I think theres incredible excitement about what we can do in the in-home broadband space, especially in rural environments. I think thats something that, through the discussions weve had with the FCC and obviously some of the state folks, thats a huge win from this combination, a transformational impact from this 5G network in rural America and in-home broadband space. Super exciting.
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John Legere - CEO
I think the question is a really good one. Its something that were going to have to revamp up our communication about.
If you look at the FCCs decision process and the things that were extremely important to the FCC and to the country about this network build and about the in-home broadband competition, about the rural competition, not just rural coverage but rural in-home broadband, the commitments we made, those are the most exciting parts of this. But for a number of months, we kind of took a left-hand turn where the DOJ certainly had a different set of issues that they were focusing on and trying to answer the question of can that exciting thing for the country happen without harming the competitive environment? And but all the items that are being announced today by the DOJ, as you look past them, then you have to go back and see, okay, this sets the stage for that. And now you start to remember what happens when you unleash this network, you invest $40 billion in 3 years, you increase jobs, you increase rural penetration, you really go after the in-home broadband market and attack competitively one of the most uncompetitive markets in the country. So thats an exciting piece that I think will now resurface a bit. And together, Im hoping and believing that those 2 things together now are the answer as to why I believe the regulatory approval processes from here, focusing on those, Im confident that well get this done.
Lets take one last question.
Operator
Our last question comes from Ana Goshko of Bank of America.
Ana Goshko - BofA Merrill Lynch, Research Division - MD
I think most of this is probably for Braxton. But Braxton, youve got to raise some money to close this deal. So I think you originally had cited $26 billion of investment-grade-rated secured bank debt and bonds. So one, I wanted to confirm thats still plan?
Two, with regard to timing, a lot of that needs to be done by the time of the deal close for refinancing. So what is your plan on timing? Had you want to wait until you potentially get through a court process? Or might there be a plan to put the debt proceeds into escrow in order to raise it in advance of the close?
Braxton Carter - EVP, CFO
Yes, Ana. So first of all, my comment earlier, weve got the proceeds from the disposition of the prepaid business as well as outperformance at the T-Mobile level in the last 1.5 years since we put the targets out. So we do not need to raise $26 billion at this point.
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What I would just look at as a rule of thumb is about a 10% overall decrease in that or just round it to $3 billion, and then well just determine on market conditions what market that comes out of. Remember, the primary funding mechanisms are term loan B and IG secured bonds. But no, that number is definitely coming down. And I kind of gave the new entry peak leverage targets earlier in this call.
So the second part of your question, would we prefund some of this versus just really handle it with the bridge? We will have to ultimately make that determination depending on market terms once we really work through the in the upcoming months with the states.
I can tell you that the intent is not to draw the bridge. That adds additional costs to the overall funding here. But the actual timing and how we do that certainly would precede close. Exactly when is yet to be determined, and well have to make a real-time call relating to that. The actual proceeds would be pre-funded and would be held in escrow up to closing of the transaction because we need to attach all the collateral and a lot of details as you are aware of there. But well have to make game day call exactly when and how were going to go to market and then what the respective buckets of what we raised. So but overall, great news from a credit standpoint.
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