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Siemens AG Earnings Release 2025

Feb 13, 2025

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Earnings Release

Q1 FY 2025

October 1 to December 31, 2024

Munich, Germany, February 13, 2025

Promising first quarter generates positive momentum

Abstract

"With a promising start to fiscal 2025, we are creating clear momentum for continued value creation for our stakeholders. Our technologies enable our customers to combine the real and digital worlds to improve competitiveness, resilience and sustainability. We see strong traction in bringing real world impact with our leadership in industrial AI," said Roland Busch, President and Chief Executive Officer of Siemens AG. "With free cash flow of $€ 1.6$ billion, we have significantly exceeded the prior-year performance and created an excellent foundation for a successful fiscal 2025. Proceeds of $€ 3.1$ billion from the sale of Innomotics further contribute to our position of financial strength, and we will continue to focus on execution excellence to create long-term value for our shareholders. For fiscal 2025, we confirm our outlook," said Ralf P. Thomas, Chief Financial Officer of Siemens AG.

  • First-quarter revenue grew 3\% to $€ 18.4$ billion; orders rose in all industrial businesses except Mobility, which had recorded a sharply higher volume from large orders in Q1 FY 2024; as a result, orders for Siemens overall declined 7\% to $€ 20.1$ billion; book-to-bill ratio was 1.09
  • On a comparable basis, excluding currency translation and portfolio effects, revenue was up 3\% and orders decreased 8\%
  • Profit Industrial Business was $€ 2.5$ billion, with a profit margin of $14.1 \%$
  • Net income climbed 52\% to $€ 3.9$ billion, benefiting from a $€ 2.1$ billion gain (after tax) from the sale of Innomotics; corresponding basic earnings per share (EPS) were $€ 4.71$ and EPS before purchase price allocation accounting (EPS pre PPA) were $€ 4.86$; excluding $€ 2.64$ per share related to the gain from the sale of Innomotics, EPS pre PPA were $€ 2.22$
  • Free cash flow from continuing and discontinued operations rose sharply year-over-year to $€ 1.6$ billion

Siemens

Q1 \% Change
(in millions of €) FY 2025 FY 2024 Actual Comp.
Orders 20,065 21,639 $(77 \%)$ (8)\%
Revenue 18,353 17,745 $3 \%$ $3 \%$
Profit
Industrial Business 2,517 2,723 $(8) \%$
therein: severance (78) (41)
Profit margin
Industrial Business 14.1\% $15.8 \%$
excl. severance 14.6\% 16.0\%
Income from
continuing operations 1,801 2,569 $(30) \%$
therein: severance (83) (51)
Income (loss) from discontinued operations, net of income taxes 2,067 (21) n/a
Net income 3,868 2,548 $52 \%$
Basic EPS (in €) 4.71 3.03 $56 \%$
EPS pre PPA (in €) 4.86 3.19 $52 \%$
Free cash flow (continuing and discontinued operations) 1,584 1,048 $51 \%$
Cash conversion rate 0.41 0.41 $0 \%$
ROCE 29.7\% 23.0\%
  • Higher order intake in most industrial businesses was more than offset by a decrease at Mobility, which reported a sharply lower volume from large orders due to a very high basis of comparison
  • Revenue growth on clear increases at Mobility, Smart Infrastructure and Siemens Healthineers; Digital Industries significantly declined due to the automation business, while revenue growth in the software business continued
  • Currency translation and portfolio transactions had only minor effects on volume development year-over-year
  • Profit Industrial Business: substantial decrease for Digital Industries due to the automation business; Smart Infrastructure delivered excellent performance and made the largest contribution to Profit Industrial Business; Siemens Healthineers significantly increased its profit
  • Income from continuing operations in Q1 FY 2024 had included a $€ 0.5$ billion pre-tax gain from the transfer of a stake in Siemens Energy AG to Siemens Pension-Trust e.V. and corresponding termination of equity method accounting
  • Net income rose sharply, benefiting from a gain of $€ 2.1$ billion (after tax) from the sale of Innomotics within discontinued operations
  • Sharp increase in Free cash flow was driven by Industrial Business, which generated a Free cash flow of $€ 1.7$ billion compared to $€ 1.3$ billion in Q1 FY 2024; highest increase came from Smart Infrastructure, driven by stringent working capital management
  • Substantial proceeds of $€ 3.1$ billion from the sale of Innomotics; these cash inflows are not part of Free cash flow
  • Provisions for pensions and similar obligations as of December 31, 2024, amounted to $€ 0.9$ billion, the same low level as of September 30, 2024
  • ROCE: increase on sharply higher net income, including the above mentioned $€ 2.1$ billion gain related to Innomotics, was partly offset by higher average capital employed

Digital Industries

Q1 \% Change
(in millions of €) FY 2025 FY 2024 Actual Comp.
Orders 4,213 3,979 6\% 6\%
Revenue 4,052 4,562 (11) (11)
therein: software business 1,369 1,185 16\% 15\%
Profit 588 895 (34)
therein: severance (52) (7)
Profit margin 14.5\% 19.6\%
excl. severance 15.8\% 19.8\%

Smart Infrastructure

Q1 \% Change
(in millions of €) FY 2025 FY 2024 Actual Comp.
Orders 6,196 5,831 6\% 5\%
Revenue 5,286 4,827 10\% 8\%
therein: service business 1,168 1,080 8\% 8\%
Profit 891 885 1\%
therein: severance (5) (7)
Profit margin 16.9\% 18.3\%
excl. severance 17.0\% 18.5\%

Mobility

Q1 \% Change
(in millions of €) FY 2025 FY 2024 Actual Comp.
Orders 2,660 5,636 $(53) \%$ $(53) \%$
Revenue 2,972 2,700 10\% 10\%
therein: service business 524 453 16\% 14\%
Profit 249 251 (1)
therein: severance (5) (4)
Profit margin 8.4\% 9.3\%
excl. severance 8.6\% 9.4\%
  • Orders rose on clear increases in both the software and the automation businesses; on a geographic basis, orders grew in all reporting regions, led by the region Americas; clear growth in the region Asia, Australia, driven by the automation business; book-tobill ratio above 1 for the first time in two years
  • Revenue growth in the software business was more than offset by a significant decline in the automation business; the decrease was strongest in the factory automation business, where customers were still reducing stock levels; on a geographic basis, revenue rose in the Americas, but it declined in the other reporting regions
  • Profit declined due to the automation business, which continued to be impacted by reduced capacity utilization on lower revenue and, in addition, recorded higher severance charges
  • Orders rose in all businesses; highest growth contribution came from the electrification business, which won a number of larger contracts from data center, energy and industry customers
  • Revenue was also up in all businesses, led by the electrification and electrical products businesses, which executed strongly on their large order backlogs from data center and energy customers
  • On a geographic basis, order and revenue growth was driven by the U.S. and Europe
  • Profit even exceeded Q1 FY 2024, which had benefited from a €94 million positive effect related to past portfolio activities; this strong profit development was driven by higher revenue, increased capacity utilization and ongoing productivity improvements
  • Order intake included a $€ 0.5$ billion order for rail infrastructure and maintenance in the U.K. and a $€ 0.3$ billion order from an existing framework agreement for delivery of trains in Austria; Q1 FY 2024 had included a sharply higher volume from large orders
  • All businesses reported higher revenue, led by the customer services and the rolling stock businesses
  • A profit increase in the customer services business was more than offset by a decline in the rolling stock business, due mainly to a less favorable business mix

Siemens Healthineers

Q1 \% Change
(in millions of €) FY 2025 FY 2024 Actual Comp.
Orders 6,336 5,601 $13 \%$ $12 \%$
Revenue 5,482 5,175 $6 \%$ $6 \%$
Profit 789 692 $14 \%$
therein: severance (15) (24)
Profit margin 14.4\% 13.4\%
excl. severance 14.7\% 13.8\%

Siemens Financial Services

Q1
(in millions of €) FY 2025 FY 2024
Earnings before taxes (EBT) 113 260
therein: equity business 9 149
therein: severance (1) -
ROE (after taxes) 13.3\% $31.2 \%$
Dec 31, Sep 30,
(in millions of €) 2024 2024
Total assets 33,602 32,841

Reconciliation to Consolidated Financial Statements

Profit

Q1
(in millions of €) FY 2025 FY 2024
Innovation (129) (38)
Governance (23) (59)
Amortization of intangible assets acquired in business combinations (172) (197)
Financing, eliminations and other items 73 528
Reconciliation to Consolidated Financial Statements (250) 234
  • Volume up in all businesses, led by the imaging business; several large contract wins contributed to order growth
  • Profit rose in nearly all businesses, most notably in the diagnostics business, due mainly to cost reductions related to its transformation program, and in the imaging business on higher revenue
  • Solid earnings contribution from Siemens Financial Services below a strong prior-year quarter, which had benefited from a gain of $€ 131$ million from the sale of a stake in an equity investment
  • Positive currency translation effects led to an increase in total assets compared to the end of fiscal 2024
  • In the prior-year quarter, Financing, eliminations and other items had included a gain of $€ 0.5$ billion from the transfer of a stake in Siemens Energy AG to Siemens Pension-Trust e.V. and corresponding termination of equity method accounting; the current period included income of $€ 53$ million from revised estimates related to provisions for a legacy project
  • Increase in expenses for Innovation related to previously announced activities in connection with our ONE Tech Company program
  • Beginning with Q1 FY 2025, the former items Siemens Energy Investment, Siemens Real Estate and Centrally carried pension expense were transferred to the item Financing, eliminations and other items. Furthermore, reclassifications were made between the item Innovation and the item Financing, eliminations and other items

Outlook

We confirm our outlook for fiscal 2025 as given in our Earnings Release Q4 FY 2024.
We anticipate moderate macroeconomic growth in fiscal 2025, due in part to continuing geopolitical uncertainty including trade conflicts, and also to ongoing challenges for the manufacturing sector due to overcapacity and weak consumer demand. At the same time, infrastructure markets, particularly in electrification and mobility, remain strong.

Digital Industries expects for fiscal 2025 a change in comparable revenue, net of currency translation and portfolio effects, in a range of (6)\% to $1 \%$ and a profit margin of $15 \%$ to $19 \%$.

Smart Infrastructure expects for fiscal 2025 comparable revenue growth of $6 \%$ to $9 \%$ and a profit margin of $17 \%$ to $18 \%$.
Mobility expects for fiscal 2025 comparable revenue growth of $8 \%$ to $10 \%$ and a profit margin of $8 \%$ to $10 \%$.
For the Siemens Group, we expect comparable revenue growth in the range of $3 \%$ to $7 \%$ and a book-to-bill ratio above 1.
We expect basic EPS from net income before purchase price allocation accounting (EPS pre PPA) for fiscal 2025 in a range of $€ 10.40$ to $€ 11.00$, excluding the gain from the sale of Innomotics; a preliminary gain of $€ 2.1$ billion after tax was recorded in the first quarter of fiscal 2025. For comparison, EPS pre PPA in fiscal 2024 was $€ 10.54$ excluding a positive $€ 0.61$ per share from Siemens Energy Investment.

This outlook excludes burdens from legal and regulatory matters.

Notes and forward-looking statements

Starting today at 07:30 a.m. CET, the press conference call on Siemens' first-quarter results for fiscal 2025 will be broadcast live at www.siemens.com/conferencecall.
Starting today at 08:30 a.m. CET, you can also follow the conference call for analysts and investors live at www.siemens.com/analystcall.
Recordings of the press conference call and the conference call for analysts and investors will be made available afterwards.
Starting today at 10:00 a.m. CET, we will also provide a live video webcast of Chairman of the Supervisory Board Jim Hagemann Snabe's and CEO Roland Busch's speeches to the Annual Shareholders' Meeting in Munich, Germany. You can access the webcast at www.siemens.com/press/agm. A video of the speeches will be available after the live webcast.
Financial publications are available for download at: www.siemens.com/ir.
This document contains statements related to our future business and financial performance and future events or developments involving Siemens that may constitute forward-looking statements. These statements may be identified by words such as "expect," "look forward to," "anticipate," "intend," "plan," "believe," "seek," "estimate," "will," "project" or words of similar meaning. We may also make forwardlooking statements in other reports, in prospectuses, in presentations, in material delivered to shareholders and in press releases. In addition, our representatives may from time to time make oral forward-looking statements. Such statements are based on the current expectations and certain assumptions of Siemens' management, of which many are beyond Siemens' control. These are subject to a number of risks, uncertainties and factors, including, but not limited to those described in disclosures, in particular in the chapter Report on expected developments and associated material opportunities and risks in the Combined Management Report of the Siemens Report (siemens.com/siemensreport), and in the Interim Group Management Report of the Half-year Financial Report (provided that it is already available for the current reporting year), which should be read in conjunction with the Combined Management Report. Should one or more of these risks or uncertainties materialize, should decisions, assessments or requirements of regulatory authorities deviate from our expectations, should events of force majeure, such as pandemics, unrest or acts of war, occur or should underlying expectations including future events occur at a later date or not at all or assumptions prove incorrect, actual results, performance or achievements of Siemens may (negatively or positively) vary materially from those described explicitly or implicitly in the relevant forward-looking statement. Siemens neither intends, nor assumes any obligation, to update or revise these forward-looking statements in light of developments which differ from those anticipated.
This document includes - in the applicable financial reporting framework not clearly defined - supplemental financial measures that are or may be alternative performance measures (non-GAAP-measures). These supplemental financial measures should not be viewed in isolation or as alternatives to measures of Siemens' net assets and financial positions or results of operations as presented in accordance with the applicable financial reporting framework in its Consolidated Financial Statements. Other companies that report or describe similarly titled alternative performance measures may calculate them differently.
Due to rounding, numbers presented throughout this and other documents may not add up precisely to the totals provided and percentages may not precisely reflect the absolute figures.
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Financial Results

First Quarter of Fiscal 2025

Key figures

(in millions of $€$, except where otherwise stated)

Volume
Q1 \% Change
FY 2025 FY 2024 Actual (2024
Orders 20,065 21,639 (7) (8)
Revenue 18,353 17,745 3\% 3\%
Book-to-bill ratio 1.09
Order backlog (in billions of $€$ ) 118

Profitability and Capital efficiency

Q1
FY 2025 FY 2024 \% Change
Industrial Business
Profit 2,517 2,723 (8)
Profit margin 14.1\% 15.8\%
Continuing operations
EBITDA 2,927 3,712 (21)
Income from continuing operations 1,801 2,569 (30)
Basic EPS (in $€)^{1}$ 2.08 3.05 (32)
Discontinued operations
Income (loss) from discontinued operations, net of income taxes 2,067 (21) n/a
Basic EPS (in $€)^{1}$ 2.63 $(0.03)$ n/a
Continuing and discontinued operations
Net income 3,868 2,548 52\%
Basic EPS (in $€)^{1}$ 4.71 3.03 56\%
EPS pre PPA (in $€)^{1}$ 4.86 3.19 52\%
Return on capital employed (ROCE) 29.7\% 23.0\%

Capital structure and Liquidity

Dec 31, 2024 Sep 30, 2024
Total equity 64,837 56,231
Industrial net debt 5,533 9,421
Industrial net debt / EBITDA ${ }^{2}$ 0.4 0.7
Q1 FY 2025 Q1 FY 2024
Free cash flow
Continuing operations 1,607 1,067
Discontinued operations (24) (19)
Continuing and discontinued operations 1,584 1,048
Cash conversion rate
Continuing and discontinued operations 0.41 0.41

Employees

Dec 31, 2024 Sep 30, 2024
Continuing operations Total Continuing operations Total $^{1}$
Total 313 313 312 327
Germany 86 86 85 89
Outside Germany 227 227 227 238

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[^0]: ${ }^{1}$ Throughout excluding currency translation and portfolio effects.
${ }^{2}$ Basic EPS - attributable to shareholders of Siemens AG. For fiscal 2025 and 2024 weighted average shares outstanding (basic) (in thousands) for the first quarter amounted to 786,025 and 789,473.
${ }^{3}$ Accumulative EBITDA of the previous four quarters until the reporting date.
${ }^{4}$ Continuing and discontinued operations.

(in millions of $€$, per share amounts in $€$ ) Q1
FY 2025 FY 2024
Revenue 18,353 17,745
Cost of sales $(11,264)$ $(10,707)$
Gross profit 7,089 7,038
Research and development expenses $(1,545)$ $(1,496)$
Selling and general administrative expenses $(3,500)$ $(3,373)$
Other operating income 105 194
Other operating expenses (85) (78)
Income (loss) from investments accounted for using the equity method, net 90 664
Interest income 747 713
Interest expenses (386) (420)
Other financial income (expenses), net (133) (24)
Income from continuing operations before income taxes 2,381 3,217
Income tax expenses (580) (648)
Income from continuing operations 1,801 2,569
Income (loss) from discontinued operations, net of income taxes 2,067 (21)
Net income 3,868 2,548
Attributable to:
Non-controlling interests 163 160
Shareholders of Siemens AG 3,705 2,389
Basic earnings per share
Income from continuing operations 2.08 3.05
Income (loss) from discontinued operations 2.63 $(0.03)$
Net income 4.71 3.03
Diluted earnings per share
Income from continuing operations 2.06 3.01
Income (loss) from discontinued operations 2.60 $(0.03)$
Net income 4.66 2.99

Consolidated Statements of Comprehensive Income

(in millions of $€$ ) (in millions of $€$ ) FY 2025 FY 2024
Net income 3,868 2,548
Remeasurements of defined benefit plans (83) (323)
therein: Income tax effects 54 290
Remeasurements of equity instruments 2,352 122
therein: Income tax effects (13) -
Income (loss) from investments accounted for using the equity method, net - (18)
Items that will not be reclassified to profit or loss 2,269 (218)
Currency translation differences 2,827 $(1,505)$
Derivative financial instruments (228) 93
therein: Income tax effects 93 (34)
Income (loss) from investments accounted for using the equity method, net 26 (75)
Items that may be reclassified subsequently to profit or loss 2,625 $(1,486)$
Other comprehensive income, net of income taxes 4,894 $(1,705)$
Total comprehensive income 8,762 843
Attributable to:
Non-controlling interests 466 43
Shareholders of Siemens AG 8,296 800
(in millions of €) Dec 31, 2024 Sep 30, 2024
Assets
Cash and cash equivalents 13,926 9,156
Trade and other receivables 17,287 16,963
Other current financial assets 11,782 10,492
Contract assets 8,142 7,985
Inventories 11,707 10,923
Current income tax assets 1,647 1,767
Other current assets 1,775 1,632
Assets classified as held for disposal 2,406 2,433
Total current assets 68,673 61,353
Goodwill 32,803 31,384
Other intangible assets 10,022 9,593
Property, plant and equipment 12,834 12,242
Investments accounted for using the equity method 1,060 980
Other financial assets 27,640 27,388
Deferred tax assets 2,754 2,677
Other assets 2,069 2,196
Total non-current assets 89,182 86,459
Total assets 157,855 147,812
Liabilities and equity
Short-term debt and current maturities of long-term debt 8,149 6,598
Trade payables 8,701 8,843
Other current financial liabilities 2,327 2,006
Contract liabilities 13,310 12,855
Current provisions 2,715 2,730
Current income tax liabilities 2,174 1,805
Other current liabilities 7,264 7,833
Liabilities associated with assets classified as held for disposal 52 1,245
Total current liabilities 44,691 43,913
Long-term debt 41,735 41,321
Provisions for pensions and similar obligations 866 912
Deferred tax liabilities 1,633 1,483
Provisions 1,248 1,120
Other financial liabilities 862 864
Other liabilities 1,984 1,968
Total non-current liabilities 48,327 47,667
Total liabilities 93,018 91,581
Equity
Issued capital 2,400 2,400
Capital reserve 7,470 7,757
Retained earnings 43,112 39,657
Other components of equity 8,294 3,615
Treasury shares, at cost (1,872) (2,165)
Total equity attributable to shareholders of Siemens AG 59,403 51,264
Non-controlling interests 5,433 4,967
Total equity 64,837 56,231
Total liabilities and equity 157,855 147,812
(in millions of €) Q1 FY 2025 FY 2024
Cash flows from operating activities
Net income 3,868 2,548
Adjustments to reconcile net income to cash flows from operating activities - continuing operations
(Income) loss from discontinued operations, net of income taxes $(2,067)$ 21
Amortization, depreciation and impairments 774 764
Income tax expenses 580 648
Interest (income) expenses, net (360) (293)
(Income) loss related to investing activities 6 (719)
Other non-cash (income) expenses 737 (304)
Change in operating net working capital from
Contract assets 72 (37)
Inventories (444) (756)
Trade and other receivables 218 (151)
Trade payables (400) (623)
Contract liabilities 155 578
Additions to assets leased to others in operating leases (137) (88)
Change in other assets and liabilities $(1,456)$ (285)
Income taxes paid (203) (607)
Dividends received 70 87
Interest received 699 686
Cash flows from operating activities - continuing operations 2,111 1,470
Cash flows from operating activities - discontinued operations (24) (11)
Cash flows from operating activities - continuing and discontinued operations 2,087 1,459
Cash flows from investing activities
Additions to intangible assets and property, plant and equipment (504) (403)
Acquisitions of businesses, net of cash acquired (401) (348)
Purchase of investments and financial assets for investment purposes (283) (217)
Change in receivables from financing activities 226 224
Disposal of intangibles and property, plant and equipment 38 4
Disposal of businesses, net of cash disposed 35 (26)
Disposal of investments and financial assets for investment purposes 442 293
Cash flows from investing activities - continuing operations (447) (474)
Cash flows from investing activities - discontinued operations 3,096 (9)
Cash flows from investing activities - continuing and discontinued operations 2,649 (482)
Cash flows from financing activities
Purchase of treasury shares (314) (417)
Re-issuance of treasury shares and other transactions with owners (7) $(2,081)$
Issuance of long-term debt - 1,249
Repayment of long-term debt (including current maturities of long-term debt) (622) (197)
Change in short-term debt and other financing activities 799 1,527
Interest paid (273) (253)
Dividends attributable to non-controlling interests (13) (12)
Cash flows from financing activities - continuing operations (430) (184)
Cash flows from financing activities - discontinued operations - (5)
Cash flows from financing activities - continuing and discontinued operations (430) (189)
Effect of changes in exchange rates on cash and cash equivalents 252 (103)
Change in cash and cash equivalents 4,559 685
Cash and cash equivalents at beginning of period 9,368 10,084
Cash and cash equivalents at end of period 13,926 10,769
Less: Cash and cash equivalents of assets classified as held for disposal and discontinued operations at end of period 1 -
Cash and cash equivalents at end of period (Consolidated Statements of Financial Position) 13,926 10,769

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Orders \& Revenue by region
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