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Kaveri Seed Company Ltd Call Transcript 2024

Nov 18, 2024

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18[th] N ovembe r 2024

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Bombay Stock Exchange Ltd., National Stock Exchange of India Ltd. 1[st] Fl o or New T rading R ing E xchange Plaza, 5[th] Floor, Roti m da Buil d ing P lot No.C / 1, G Blo c k, P.J.T o wers, D a lal Street , Fort, B andra K u rla Com p lex, Ban d ra (E) MUMBAI – 400 001 MUMBAI – 400 051 Scrip Code: 532899 Scrip Code: KSCL

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Dear Sir/ Ma d am,

Sub: Transcript – Kaveri Seed Q2 & FY 2024-25 Results Conference Call on Thursday, 14[th] November, 2024 – Reg.,

Purs u ant to R egulati o n 30 of SEBI ( L isting Obligation s and Disclosure Require m ents) Reg u lations, 2015, Plea s e find at t ached h e rewith T r anscript of Kaver i Seed Company L i mited Q2 & FY 2024- 2 5 Result s Confere n ce Call m ade on T hursday, 14[th] Nov e mber, 2024.

The transcript and audi o is uplo a ded on t h e Compa n y’s web s ite as we l l on belo w link:

https://www.kave r iseeds.in/ w p-content/ u ploads/20 2 4/11/Tran s cript.pdf

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This i s for you r information and r ecords.

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Tha n king you , Your s faithful l y, For KAVERI SEED COMPANY LIMITED Gundavaram Digitally signed by Gundavaram Venkata Venkata Bhaskar Bhaskar Rao Date: 2024.11.18 15:15:15 Rao +05'30' G.V. BHASKAR RAO MANAGING DIRECTOR Encl: a/a.

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“Kav e ri See d Com i mited p any L Q2 a n d H1 F Y25 E arnin g s Con f erence Call” Nove m ber 1 4 , 202 4

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MANAGEMENT: MR. MITHUN CHAND –EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR – KAVERI SEED COMPANY LIMITED

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Moderator: Ladies a n d gentlemen, g ood day, and w elcome to the Kaveri Seed C ompany's Q2 a nd H1 FY '25 Earni n gs Conferenc e Call. As a r e minder, all pa r ticipant lines will be in the listen-only mode an d there will b e an opportu n ity for you t o ask questio n s after the presentation conclude s . Please note t h at this confer e nce is being r ecorded Joini n g us today on this call is Mr. Mith u n Chand, Exe c utive Director.

Before w e begin, I woul d like to menti o n that some o f the statement s made in toda y 's call may be forwa r d-looking in n ature and m a y involve ris k s and uncerta i nties. For a l i st of such considera t ions, please r efer to the e a rnings presen t ation. I woul d now like t o hand the conferen c e over to Mr. M ithun Chand. T hank you, an d over to you.

Mithun Chand:

Good evening, and welc o me, everyone , to our quarte r 2 first half '25 earnings conf e rence call. We hope you have ha d a chance to review the pr e sentation of o ur results, wh i ch is also available on our website. I would touc h upon the ope r ational and financial perform a nce of the company and then ope n the floor for the question- a nd-answer se s sion. First ha l f financial highlight s . Revenue from operations r egistered a g r owth of 3% t o INR 889.8 4 crores as compare d to INR 863 cr o res first half o f last year.

EBITDA was at INR 2 9 9.68 crores, r e mained flat as compared to INR 298.87 cr o res in first half '24. N et profit was at INR2 79.41 crores as com p ared to INR 2 78.55 crores. I t remained flat. Cas h on book stan d s at INR 559 crores as agai n st INR 732 cr o res in the cor r esponding half year. For Q2FY25 revenues from operations w a s at INR 81.7 6 crores. EBIT D A was at INR 6.89 crores. Net pr o fit was at INR 3.49 crores.

The majo r highlights, B o ard has recom m ended a 250 % dividend that is INR 5 per e q uity share on a face value of INR 2 per equity sha r e. Increase in v olumes in hy b rid rice and se l ection rice and maiz e that resulted i n increase in r evenues due t o good realizat i ons. Non-cott o n segment has grow n by 24% in th e first half of t h e year on acc o unt of major c ontributors lik e selection, hybrid rice and maize h a ve done well.

Exports d uring the first half were im p acted by unre s t in Banglade s h. This has resulted in a muted gr o wth rates at re v enue level an d further below EBITDA and P AT. Increase i n volumes in both s e lection and h y brid rice and m aize have res u lted in good g rowth rate on account of good realizations. Com p any's exports to recover in t he second hal f of the year d u ring Rabi season as the situation i n Bangladesh i s stable now. O perational-wis e , the contribu t ion of new products, the volumes of Bajra was u p from 59% to 73%. Hybrid rice volumes i n creased by 18% and r evenues incre a sed by 28%.

Selection rice volumes i n creased by 2 0 % and revenu e s by 34%. M a ize volumes i n creased by 9% and r evenues were 24%. Vegeta b le sales volu m e increased 1 1%, where o u r revenue decrease d by 13%. Exp o rts sales stan d at INR6.1 crores in first h a lf of '25 as c o mpared to INR25.93 crores in the f irst half of '24 . The decline i s due to politic a l unrest in Ba n gladesh. I will now o pen the floor f or question-an d -answer sessi o n.

Thank yo u . We will no w begin the question and answer session. We have the first q uestion on the line o f Dhruv Saraf fr om Bowhead I ndia.

Moderator:

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Dhruv Sa
raf:
Sir, if I ju
st look at your
maize revenu
e growth in H1
'25, which is
at 24%. And i
f I were to
just knock
off Q1 of this
year. So what
I see in Q2 ma
ize have degro
wn for the com
pany Y-o-
Y to the
tune of around
30% to 40%
. So what cou
ld be the reas
on, sir, given
that other
competito
rs have shown
good results in
maize in Q2 sp
ecifically?
Mithun C
hand:
Dhruv, ma
jority of the sa
les were there
in the first qua
rter itself. Even
though it's in
the second
quarter, it
's nothing but
the spillovero
f the first quar
ter. So we had
a good sale
in the first
quarter. I
don't know ab
out the other c
ompanies they
might have do
ne the sale in
the second
quarter, bu
t it's all of a ha
lf-to-half comp
arison is a goo
d comparison.
Dhruv Sa
raf:
Right. So
there couldb
e some front-l
oading that ha
ppens, whichi
s why Q2 wa
s subdued,
basically?
Mithun C
hand:
Not exact
ly front-loading
, but we take
the actual liqui
dation of the s
tock. But thea
reas where
we operat
e, the liquidatio
n might havet
aken place in th
e first quarter
itself.
Dhruv Sa
raf:
All right.
That helps.A
nd sir, justt
o understandt
he difference
between stand
alone and
consolidat
ed numbers fo
r this quarter.S
o we feel like
INR 50 crores
difference. So
could you
just tell us
what this diffe
rence is on acc
ount of?
Mithun C
hand:
Sorry?
Dhruv Sa
raf:
The differ
ence betweens
tandalone and
consolidatedn
umbers. What
explains the di
fference? I
mean, wh
at leads to thed
ifference betw
een standalone
and consolidat
ed number ofQ
2?
Mithun C
hand:
You justw
anted to have
the consolidate
d for the Q2?
Dhruv Sa
raf:
Yes. So I
mean, sir, con
solidated forQ
2 is at INR 13
7 crores, where
as stand-alone
is INR 85
crores. So
there is a diffe
rence of INR5
0 crores thatw
e see. What ac
counts for this
difference
of INR50
crores?
Mithun C
hand:
So basica
lly, we haveo
ther 4 subsidi
aries in the co
mpany. One
is Microtecka
nd Aditya
Agritech,
these are the co
ntribution from
those compan
ies.
Moderato
r:
Thank you
. We have the
next questionf
rom the line of
Gunit Singh fr
om CCI.
Gunit Sin
gh:
Sir, I wan
t to understan
d with the ne
w tax regime,
I mean, woul
d we still be
able to do
buybacks
going forward
or buybacks ar
e out of the que
stion?
Mithun C
hand:
Again, the
re's a managem
ent decision th
at we need to
take, but we ha
ve still more ti
me for the
buybackb
ecause we hav
e completed the
buyback in th
e last March.S
o we will decid
e later.
Gunit Sin
gh:
Yes. I me
an, you will de
cide, but I'ms
aying that, Im
ean, is it stillp
ossible with th
e new tax
regime or
is it practica
lly impossible
now with the
new tax reg
ime? I mean,
I want to
understan
d the view ofm
anagement on
this.

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Mithun Chand: So that's all that we ne e d to discuss a n d decide. It's not an individ u al decision. I t 's a Board decision. But we see h o w the shareho l ders get bene f ited out of it. I n the next qu a rter or so, we'll hav e a clear clarity on it.

Gunit Singh: All right. So currently, y o u haven't hav e a discussion r e garding this y e t? Mithun Chand: Yes. Still , we have some more time left for that. Moderator: Thank y o u. We have t h e next questi o n from the l i ne of Mr. Ni t in Awasthi fr o m InCred Equities. Nitin Awasthi: Wanted s o me volume n u mbers. if yo u could shed li g ht on your 4 c ore products, how much was the s a le in volume t erms for the fi r st half of this y ear? That wo u ld be cotton, h ybrid rice, selection r ice and maize. Mithun Chand: You wan t the overall vo l umes? Nitin Awasthi: Yes, sir, t o tal volumes j u st for these 4 p roducts. Mithun Chand: So usuall y , we are not d isclosing volu m es as of now, but if you w a nt, I can give the overall company volumes. For t h e first half of l ast year, we h a d done volum e s of INR 3.97 crores kgs. For this y e ar, we have d o ne INR 4.39 c r ores kgs. Nitin Awasthi: Okay. And what has bee n the realizatio n in the first half per package o f cotton? Mithun Chand: The reali z ation is aroun d close to INR 7 30 odd. Nitin Awasthi: Okay. So INR 730 odd. Sir, next thing I wish to und e rstand is how m uch is the m a ize market expandin g by? what wa s our share? A nd where do w e indicate to g o with the gr o wth in the market? Mithun Chand: As of no w , if you see c o mpared to last half of this ha l f year, the maize was up by c lose to 8% to 9%. B ut going forw a rd, we see a g o od acreage c o ming in maize , as the ethano l plants are also com i ng up, the m a ize are good. I t's much rem u nerative for t h e farmer now . We think going for w ard, maize as a crop should d o well. Nitin Awasthi: Sir, the m arket share a b i t? Mithun Chand: Market s h are of Kaveri? Nitin Awasthi: Yes. Mithun Chand: At presen t , we have a m a rket share of 8 % to 9%. Yea r -on-year, we t h ink that we ca n grow our market s h are, especially in maize. We have very good pipeline of h ybrids in maize. And not only that, even maize is much visible i n the first hal f . You can see even though t h e cotton is down by m ore than 30 % , close to 30% in the first hal f , we were abl e to match our r evenues as we have i ncreased our s a les in both ric e and maize se g ments. Overa l l, you can say non-cotton segment. A nd going for w ard, which we see a very go o d growth rate c oming in for t h ese crops.

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Nitin Awasthi: Understo o d, sir. But th e main season f rom maize w h ere you have t he higher sales, maize is normally a crop where i n H2 sales are higher than H 1 . So this year again and goi n g forward, you expe c t a similar kin d of growth or m ore growth in H2 for maize? Mithun Chand: I don't think so. Usuall y , H1 contributes the majori t y of the maiz e . Even for la s t year, the maize was around INR 1 20 crores out of overall IN R 190 crores in H1. So H1 do m inates the majority o f the time. Bu t in the second h alf sale, maiz e is the only cr o p which contri b utes more to the rev e nue. Moderator: We have t he next questi o n from the lin e of Harsh Vor a from D.R. Ch o ksey. Please g o ahead. Harsh Vora: My quest i on is regardin g vegetable se g ment. If you c an just throw s ome light on t he drop in revenues we had witnes s ed in H1? An d are you envi s ioning the gr o wth of this se g ment over the next 3 years? And d o you see any e x port potential i n this segmen t ? Mithun Chand: So you're talking about e xport of cotto n ? Harsh Vora: Vegetabl e seed. Mithun Chand: Vegetabl e seed, if you s e e the overall f irst half, there' s a slight decli n e of INR 2.5 c rores, INR 3 crores, i n percentage terms, it comes to 12% odd. B ut the season j ust was delay e d this year because o f the rainfall a nd heavy rai n fall in most o f the parts. W e don't see an y threat in vegetable seed. We are pretty confide n t that we'll gr o w in vegetab l e as desired, t h at will be contribut e d in the secon d half of the se a son. Harsh Vora: Got it, sir . And any exp o rt potential goi n g forward? Mithun Chand: Last year , if you see the overall export s of around IN R 65-odd cror e s. We have do n e close to INR 25-odd crores in B a ngladesh itsel f . And other sale in Tanzania of INR 27 cro r es, if you recollect l ast year conca l l, I said that's o ne of the core s ales because w e had done a g overnment sale. But espe c ially in terms o f Bangladesh, out of this IN R 24 crores, w e might lose IN R 10 crores to INR12 crores in expo r t because we a lready lost the season becaus e of the unrest, but we are trying to get that sale i n some other parts of the w orld because we are starti n g in other countries like Vietnam, I vory coast. W e are getting o r ders from ther e . So we see t h at some of the reven u e should be c o vered in those p arts.

But if yo u see our over a ll growth of e x ports leaving t h is year like t h is. But overall , if you see the good g rowth in export as well as w e are trying to g row, as we ar e entering into m any other new cou n tries and we are getting ve r y encouragin g business fro m those count r ies as our hybrids a r e really doing w ell. We are f a irly confident a bout export b u siness as well.

Harsh Vora: Got it sir. So you're plan n ing to do exp o rts across all p r oducts, right? Mithun Chand: Yes, espe c ially all prod u cts under not c o tton, but basi c ally maize, ric e and vegetabl e s.

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Moderator: Thank yo u . We have th e next question from the line o f Sanjeev S f r om DreamLadder. Please go ahead.

Sanjeev S
:
I just wan
ted to get a sen
se of how theg
overnment bus
iness is plannin
g out?
Mithun C
hand:
Governme
nt business for
? our company
?
Sanjeev S
:
Yes.
Mithun C
hand:
So we do
n't participate
much in the
government su
bsidies. If you
see the reven
ue of the
company
for this year, it
's hardly some
few crores, ev
en I doubt tha
t it's in a single
digit, not
more than
that.
Sanjeev S
:
Okay. An
d any new prod
ucts that haveb
een launched
or how is the p
ipeline going fo
rward?
Mithun C
hand:
That's a c
ontinuous activ
ity what we do
. We alwayst
ry new produc
ts in each and
every crop
segment.
The launchesa
re in maize,c
otton, even in
rice and other
crops as well
, including
bajra and
wheat and mu
stard. So that'
s regular activi
ty, and therea
re more laun
ched apart
from thes
e hybrids whi
ch are launch
ed, there are
many other hy
brids, which
are in the
pipeline,w
hich are also-
- have a goodp
otential in the
future years.
Sanjeev S
:
So howm
uch would bet
he share of new
products laun
ched and the ov
erall revenue?
Mithun C
hand:
That depe
nds on the cro
p-to-crop. Usu
ally, the hybri
d which has la
unched in the
last 3 to 5
years, we
call it a newp
roduct. Theo
verall contribu
tion will be in
between 20%
to 35% in
every year
.
Sanjeev S
:
Okay. An
d what wouldb
e the capex for
the current fis
cal?
Mithun C
hand:
Most of th
e capex is alre
ady done. Like
we might inve
st over INR 25
to INR 30 cro
res for this
year. And
year-on-year,
what we alway
s say, like INR
35 crores to IN
R 40 crores,b
ut INR 25
crores toI
NR3 0 croress
hould be more
than enough.
Sanjeev S
:
Okay. An
d we have sub
stantial investm
ents also. And
since we hav
e most of the
Capex, we
have alre
ady undertaken
, is there any
plan to distri
bute surplusc
ash to investo
rs through
maybe hig
her dividends
or buybacks?
Mithun C
hand:
So if you
see in the last
7 to 8 years,w
e have done m
ore than 6 buyb
acks, and ever
y year, we
are a divi
dend paying c
ompany. And
we have justc
ompleted our
buyback in the
month of
February-
March. So alw
ays, we try to
distribute cash,
which is notr
equired for the
company.
So as ear
lier I answered
the question,
like regarding
the buybackt
ax has now ch
anged, we
need to ta
ke a decisiono
n that. I think
in the next com
ing quarters,w
e'll have clear
clarity on
that.
Sanjeev S
:
And sir,t
he reservoir le
vels are likea
lmost 87% ful
l and are weg
oing to be go
od growth
because o
f this?
Mithun C
hand:
Sorry? Wh
ich levels?

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Sanjeev S
:
Reservoir
levels.
Mithun C
hand:
Okay.
Sanjeev S
:
And we're
expecting goo
d demand asw
ell as outputi
n the rabi seas
on. How shoul
d that kind
of lead to
increase in sow
ing”
Mithun C
hand:
More or le
ss, Rabi for us
is a very lean
quarter, usually
second half is
a very lean qu
arter when
compared
to first half.M
ost of the cro
ps are like whe
at and rice, w
hich are all sel
ection rice
and some
sort of a mai
ze. So maize,
we think itw
ill be in linew
ith last year's
numbers.
Vegetable
is a very smal
l segment foru
s, but we seea
good growthi
n vegetables.B
ut overall,
if you see
second half,w
e should be inl
ine with last ye
ar's numbers.
Moderato
r:
Thank yo
u. We have the
next question
from the line
of Anurag Jain
, an Individua
l Investor.
Please go
ahead.
Anurag J
ain:
Good eve
ning, sir. Myq
uestion is fort
he half year ba
lance sheet, th
e outstandinga
mount for
biological
assets is at IN
R 383 crores.
This is the hig
hest ever in la
st 4 to 5 years
. So is this
indicative
of the antici
pated growth
for next year
, is the comp
any undertaki
ng higher
production
for the seeds
for use in then
ext one year?
Mithun C
hand:
Yes. That
's one way to lo
ok at it. But as
rightly said, th
e production is
pretty high th
is year and
I think we
have one of th
e largest produ
ction, what we
have taken int
he company'sh
istory. As
we havem
ost of the inv
entories are ata
lmost zero lev
el. So we are tr
ying to produc
e more. So
that is one
of the reasons
where we see
higher product
ion. And the o
ther thing is tha
t we see a
very good
areas coming
up. I mean to
say, very goo
d volumes, w
e are anticipati
ng a good
volume fo
r the next com
ing years. It'sa
combinationo
f both. The pr
oduction is mo
re and that
same is af
fecting the bala
nce sheet.
Moderato
r:
Thank you
. We have the
next questionf
rom the line of
Dhruv Saraf fr
om BowheadI
ndia.
Dhruv Sa
raf:
Mithun sir
, we had some
challenges inc
otton in terms
of production
over the half ye
ar. So fair
to say tha
t these challeng
es are now be
hind us and th
e next cotton s
eason shouldb
e good for
us in term
s of volume at
least?
Mithun C
hand:
Yes, thek
ind of product
ion what we ha
ve taken out th
is year and th
e current crop
is what we
see usuall
y now unlessa
nd until some
thing really ba
d happens with
the climaticc
onditions.
Otherwise
, we'll get the
anticipated p
roduction and
with a goody
ield. So I don
't see any
challenges
in the product
ion for the nex
t year, not only
in cotton, buti
n most of thec
rops.
Dhruv Sa
raf:
I had a qu
estion on high
-density planti
ng. Recently,t
here have been
some actions
and things
set by the
textile ministr
y regarding pr
omoting theu
se of high-den
sity plantingp
ractices in
cotton. So
are you seein
g any actionh
appening on th
e ground? Or
is it just stillm
ore word
than actio
n?
Mithun C
hand:
Basically,
most of the co
mpanies includ
ing Kaveri isw
orking on high
-density planti
ng. But we
are yet to
get a very suita
ble hybrid, wh
ich give better
yields. But the
research is on,
definitely,

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as the mi n ister said and t he industry is tr ying for it, de f initely down t h e line the futu r e of cotton field will b e high-densit y plantation.

The othe r reason is tha t even getting daily labour i s difficult to get, especially t o pick the cotton se e d. The picki n g of cotton crop should be m echanized. S o that is also one of the reasons w hy the industr y will move to h igh-density pl a nting. Dhruv Saraf: And so y ou have to la u nch the prod u ct, I think it's 9292. Was it specific for h i gh-density planting? Or is it, I mea n , agnostic of t h at? Mithun Chand: It's not e x actly for high-density plantin g , but if you s e e the crop, it's slightly high d ensity, but it's not li k e what is ther e . High-densit y plantation is n othing like th a t is more than double the yield rate what we saw n ow. It is more t han that, but a t least double. Moderator: We have t he next questi o n on the line of Rohan Patel f rom Turtle Ca p ital. Please go ahead. Rohan Patel: Consideri n g that this ye a r, our base for the cotton is t h e lowest. And we expect tha t next year, there are n o more produ c tion challenge s . So with this l ow sales base, how much can cotton can grow fro m here? Can w e get back to I N R 350 to INR400 crores base n ext year? Mithun Chand: This year , we have done close to INR 3 4 0 crores this y ear itself. Rohan Patel: In your p r esentation, is i t shown H1 tha t you did INR 2 58 crores? Mithun Chand: INR 258 crores, you're right, you're r i ght. Cotton, N ext year, it sh o uld be like at least 20% more tha n what we had a t now. Rohan Patel: Okay. 20 % more than w hat we had done. And con s idering that o u r non-cotton, t he base is higher, w e are growing in like aroun d like 25% to 3 0% in all of t he hybrid rice , selection, maize. S o will this trend continue? Mithun Chand: What we see is that ove r all this year, w e had a very m uted growth b ecause there a r e a couple of reason s . One is the c o tton, we are d own more tha n 30% and the other thing w h ere we are slightly d o wn in terms o f the exports, t h e exports have not as anticip a ted for whatev e r reason it is. So goi n g forward, w h at we see is th a t a 10% to 12 % growth in re v enues and 15 % to 18% of the botto m line should m uch reflect. But next y ear, as we see , as cotton is al r eady low, we' l l at least grow by 20%. And o ther crops, we see a good potential in most of the crops. So nex t year, the gro w th rate shoul d be in that 15% to 2 0 %. Rohan Patel: 15% to 2 0 % should be t h e growth rate f or next year? Mithun Chand: Yes. Rohan Patel: And that w ould lead to l i ke 20% to 25 % growth in bot t om line? Mithun Chand: It should b e more than 2 0 % plus.

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Rohan Patel: Okay. A n d we were going to bring s o me market share back, we h ave lost market share in cotton d u e to our hybri d s being matu r e enough and we were plan n ing to bring 2 to 3 new hybrids d u ring the quar t er to get back our market s h are. So how i s the progress g oing over there? Ha v e we started. Mithun Chand: Yes, for t h e next year, w hat I'm sayin g of the 20% g r owth. Basicall y , it's only bec a use of the new laun c h products. W e are seeing g o od traction in those product s , and we are giving good productio n for those pr o ducts as well. So those are t h e major cont r ibutors for the growth of next year. Rohan Patel: Okay. A n d after we rea c hed back to I N R 350 crores, say, a base in cotton next ye a r. So how will cotton as a portfoli o grow from o v er there? Lik e can we com e back to INR v 500 crores product o f cotton , again , like what we u sed to have in the past Mithun Chand: Sure. What we believe i nternally is th a t we have ver y good pipelin e products an d which are recently l a unched, are also giving very good results. W e are pretty s u re that we can go back to those pre v ious levels what we had. It's a matter of 3 to 4 years from here. Rohan Patel: Okay. And what about m edium to long - term time hori z on. And the n o n-cotton port fo lio should be growi n g like at a rate of somewhere around 15%? C an we assume ? Mithun Chand: Already, w e are one of t h e biggest in th e non-cotton s e gment and as a crop, it's gro w ing, and as a compa n y, we are doing much bett e r than the in d ustry. So these 2 combinati o ns should contribut e , not particula r ly the cotton, right, but we h ave many ot h er products li k e mustard, Bajra, So r ghum and wh e at. There are m any other products. So as a whole, if you d ivide both cotton an d noncotton se g ment, as cotto n is with a low base, it should be in that 15 % to 20% in the next 3 to 4 years. A n d this should b e in between 1 5% to 20%. O verall, as a co m pany, we see 12% to 15% growth c onservatively. Rohan Patel: Best of luck for future. Moderator: Thank yo u . We have th e next question from the line o f Mohammed Patel from Ca r e Portfolio Manager s . Mohammed Patel: Sir, this i s a follow-up t o previous par t icipants. So th e non-cotton h a s done really w ell in FY '25 and t h e base is high. So should w e expect non-c o tton growth t o slow down i n FY '26 to single digit? Mithun Chand: We don't see any single digit growth, i t should be a d ouble-digit gr o wth, may not b e like that 25% or s o , but it should b e in the 12% t o 15%. Mohammed Patel: Even on t h is higher base? Mithun Chand: Yes. Mohammed Patel: Okay. M y next question is, exports of I N R 6 crores in H1 FY '25. W h at should be t h is number for H2 ro u ghly?

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Mithun Chand: Overall, w e have done I N R 66 crores last year in ter m s of the expo r ts. As I said e a rlier, there was a on e time sale of I N R 28 crores fr o m Tanzania, w hich we don't know whether we'll get it or not. T h at again depen d s on the gove r nment policy a nd other thing s we have done like NR25 crores in B angladesh. S o INR 25 crores Bangladesh sale will be lik e INR 12 o IN R 13 crores this year. We have alrea d y lost some sa l es in the seco n d quarter.

Whereas t he decline in B angladesh sal e s, maybe like I NR 6 or INR 7 crores might b e covered in other p arts of the w o rld like we h a ve Vietnam, I vory Coast a n d other count r ies we are exporting , so that we ha v e a chance to c over. But in te r ms of Tanzan i a, we need to see whether we'll get t hose type of q u arter or not. B u t going forwa r d, if you see e x port as a seg m ent, it will grow at m ore than 15% as a whole on a year-on-yea r basis. We ne e d to take the b ase of this year. Thi s year, we can e asily grow at 15% to 20% in v egetable in ex p ort market. Mohammed Patel: Then it s h ould be INR 2 0 crores, exclu d ing Tanzania? Mithun Chand: It should be much better than that. If y ou see exactl y like we hav e done only I N R 6 crores from first half of export t his year, next h alf would be i n between INR 30 to INR40 c r ores. Mohammed Patel: And excl u ding Tanzania? Mithun Chand: Overall. T anzania, we d o n't know, but it should be pl u s or minus, s h ould be INR 3 0 and INR 40 crores. Mohammed Patel: And on t h at base, we ca n expect to gro w at 15% to 20 % ? Mithun Chand: Yes. Moderator: Thank you. As there ar e no further qu e stions. This w ill be the end of the confere n ce. Thank you for j o ining the call. For any other i nformation, please be in tou c h with Rama N aidu from Intellect P R on 992-020 - 9623. On beha l f of Kaveri Se e d Company L i mited, that co n cludes this conferen c e. Thank you fo r joining us. Y ou may now d i sconnect your lines.

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