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Happiest Minds Technologies Limited — AGM Information 2024
Jul 5, 2024
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Happiest Minds Technologies Limited Regd. Office: #53/1-4, Hosur Main Road, Madivala, Bengaluru-560068, Karnataka, India CIN of the Co. L72900KA2011PLC057931 P: +91 80 6196 0300, F: +91 80 6196 0700 Website: www.happiestminds.com Email: [email protected]
July 05, 2024
Listing Compliance & Legal Regulatory BSE Limited Phiroze Jeejeebhoy Towers Dalal Street, Mumbai 400 001 Stock Code: 543227, 974728, 974820 & 975101
Listing & Compliance National Stock Exchange of India Limited Exchange Plaza, Bandra Kurla Complex Bandra East, Mumbai 400 051 Stock Code: HAPPSTMNDS
Dear Sir/Madam,
Sub: Transcript of 13[th] Annual General Meeting held on June 28, 2024
Please find enclosed the transcript of the 13[th] Annual General Meeting of the Company held on June 28, 2024. The Transcript has been uploaded on the Company’s website https://www.happiestminds.com/investors
This is for your information and records.
Thanking you,
Yours faithfully,
For Happiest Minds Technologies Limited
Digitally signed by Praveen Praveen Kumar Kumar Darshankar Darshankar Date: 2024.07.05 17:51:48 +05'30' Praveen Kumar Darshankar Company Secretary & Compliance Officer Membership No. F6706
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Transcript of Annual General Meeting (“AGM”) of Happiest Minds Technologies Limited held on June 28, 2024 from 4.00 PM (IST) to 5.08 PM (IST) through video conferencing
Directors and KMPs present
| Directors and KMPs present | |
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| Mr. Ashok Soota | Executive Chairman & Director(Bengaluru,India) |
| Mr. Joseph Anantharaju | Executive Vice Chairman & Director(Florence, Italy) |
| Mr. Venkatraman N | ManagingDirector & CFO(Bengaluru,India) |
| Mr. Rajendra Kumar Srivastava | Independent Director(Sydney,Australia) |
| Ms. Anita Ramachandran | Independent Director(Mumbai,India) |
| Ms. Shuba Rao Mayya | Independent Director(Bengaluru,India) |
| Mr. Praveen Kumar D | CompanySecretary& Compliance Officer(Bengaluru, India) |
Other Invitees in attendance
| Other Invitees in attendance | |
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| Mr. Vikas Bagaria (Partner) Mr. Girish Bagri(Partner) |
M/s. Deloitte Haskins & Sells StatutoryAuditors(Bengaluru,India) |
| Mr. V Sreedharan (Partner) | M/s. V Sreedharan & Associates Secretarial Auditor/Scrutinizer(Bengaluru,India) |
Members present: A total of 58 members attended the meeting.
Proceedings:
Chairman Dear members and invitees, Good Evening. I am Ashok Soota, Executive Chairman. I have joined this meeting from the registered office of the Company at Bengaluru. On behalf of the Board of Directors, I take pleasure in welcoming all of you to the 13th Annual General Meeting of the members of Happiest Minds Technologies Limited. I trust that all of you and your family are safe and healthy. This is the Fourth General meeting of the Company after we listed on NSE and BSE. As of record date, I am happy to say that the Happiest Minds family of investors is at 733,000+ and I would like to extend a warm welcome to each of you. The Company has taken all feasible efforts under the current circumstances to enable members to participate through video conference and vote on the items being considered in the meeting. Now with the requisite quorum of shareholders being present, I call this meeting to order.
| We also have with us representatves from Statutory auditors, Secretarial auditors and the Scrutnizer. I would now request my colleagues on the Board to introduce themselves and confrm the place from where they are atending this meetng. Let me start with Anita. |
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| Moderator | Madam, camera is it is blank. We are not getng any response from her. |
| Chairman | Here is Anita. Anita, I think, it is mute. |
| Moderator | Madam, you are on mute. Please unmute yourself. |
| Chairman | Can we unmute her? |
| Moderator | No Sir. From our end we cannot do. |
| Company Secretary |
Maybe we can ask other Directors. |
| Chairman | We will move on to Raj. Anita will be able to try and fgure that out. And so, Raj? |
| Moderator | Sir, please unmute yourself. Mr. Rajendra Kumar, please click on the mike buton. |
| Rajendra Kumar Srivastava |
This is Rajendra Srivastava. Can you hear me? |
| Moderator | Yes Sir. Perfectly well. |
| Rajendra Kumar Srivastava |
Well, thank you. This is Rajendra Srivastava. I am calling from Sydney, Australia. I am in a private room and there is nobody else in the apartment and I have read all thepapers and everything. And so we are set togo. Thankyou. |
| Chairman | Shuba! |
| Shuba Rao Mayya | Hi, this is Shuba Mayya. I am an Independent Director on Happiest Minds. I have logged in from myresidence in Bangalore. Thankyou. |
| Chairman | Venkat! |
| Venkatraman Narayanan |
Good evening. This is Venkatraman Narayanan. I am the Managing Director and CFO of Happiest Minds Technologies Limited. I have logged in from my residence at Bangalore. |
| Chairman | Okay, and should we also now introduce Rajiv? |
| Company Secretary |
Not required, Ashok. Only Directors. |
| Chairman | Yeah, I know. And I wonder whether Anita has been able to solve the problem. Otherwise,we canproceed with the meetng. |
| Moderator | There is no response from her and camera is of. |
| Chairman | So, we proceed with the meetng. And with the introductons done and confrmaton of atendance, I now request the Company Secretary, Praveen, to providegeneral instructons to members regardingthepartcipaton. |
| Company Secretary |
Thank you, Ashok. Good evening to all. I am Praveen Kumar Darshankar, Company Secretary & Compliance Ofcer. I am joining this meetng from the registered ofce of the Companyat Bengaluru. Members maynote that this meetngis being |
| held through video conference in accordance with the circulars issued by MCA and SEBI. Facility for joining this meetng through video conference has been made available for members on a frst-come-frst served basis. All members who have joined are by default placed on mute by the moderator. When the session on Queston and Answer commences, the speaker member will be unmuted by the moderator. Members may also note that the Company reserves the right to limit the number of members asking questons depending on the availability of tme. The Register of Directors and Key Management Personnel and their Shareholding, the Register of Contracts or Arrangements in which Directors are interested and the Certfcate from the Secretarial auditor of the Company under the SEBI (Share Based Employee Benefts and Sweat Equity) Regulatons, 2021 are available electronically for inspecton by the members during the meetng. Members seeking to inspect such documents may send their requests to [email protected]. We had provided facility to cast your votes electronically on all resolutons set forth in the Notce. Members who have not cast their votes will have an opportunity to cast their votes upon declaraton by the Chairman about the commencement of e-votng at the meetng through Insta-poll. Members may click on the “Vote” sign on the lef-hand botom corner of their video screen, for votng at the meetng. Members are requested to refer to the instructons provided in the Notce or appearing on the video conference page for seamless partcipaton through video conference. In case members face any difculty, they may reach out on the helpline numbers given in the notce. Now, I request the Chairman to start the proceedings. Over to Ashok. |
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| Chairman | Sure. I notced that Anita is back. I wonder we can get her to introduce herself and she has unmuted also. |
| Anita Ramachandran |
Yeah, this is Anita Ramchandran, atending the AGM from my ofce in Mumbai. |
| Chairman | Thank you, Anita and thank you, Praveen. Dear friends, well-wishers and stakeholders! In FY‘24, your Company achieved industry-leading growth of 11% in constant currency and surpassed our EBITDA guidance for 16 consecutve quarters, achieving an EBITDA margin of 24.6%. Looking ahead, we are excited about the future, driven by the transformatonal changes we have implemented in FY‘24, including the acquisitons which we have closed in the early days of FY‘25. The transformatonal changes include establishing a new business unit focused on GenAI or Generatve AI business called GBS, creatng a new vertcal organizaton structure comprising six industry groups,integratngthe Product Engineeringand Digital Business services business |
into a single business unit called PDES and acquiring three strategic assets, PureSoftware, Aureus Tech Systems and Macmillan Learning. Our FY’24 Integrated Annual Report themed “Exploring New Horizons with Generative AI” reflects a profound era of change. Our cover visually portrays how GenAI is leading us towards new horizons. The GenAI Business services unit, under the leadership of Sridhar Mantha, its President and CEO, is generating many, many new business opportunities, many of which are replicable solutions required by multiple customers in multiple industries, including research.
The six new industry groups are really verticals where we have been present, but these are now defined as profit centers led by experienced industry managers and staffed with dedicated teams possessing deep domain expertise. The Executive Board has successfully completed three acquisitions, each aligned to enhance organizational growth and profitability and more importantly also these three acquisitions have added over 1400 professionals to Happiest Minds, which will further strengthen each of our respective verticals. PureSoftware brings with it an award-winning, banking-as-a-service platform, namely Arttha. This acquisition also provides Happiest Minds with a nearshore presence in Mexico and established offices in Singapore, Malaysia and Africa. So, you can see we are really diversifying as a result of this, geographically. The acquisition of US-based cloudnative digital transformation company, Aureus Tech Systems includes a new development center in Hyderabad. Aureus specializes in providing solutions to customers in the insurance, reinsurance and healthcare space. Additionally, we have developed a really unique bioinformatics capability at Happiest Minds. You won't see this in any other company if you ask me, in the industry and the team is comprising experts in genomics, molecular biology and data scientists. Joseph, our Executive Vice-Chairman who has been instrumental in the consistent success of the Product Engineering Services business unit, has now assumed responsibility for the integrated PDES business unit. Your Company's ESG focused approach has gained huge recognition. We are proud to be listed as ESG Champions of India 2024 by Dun & Bradstreet. Happiest Minds places sustainability at the forefront of a strategy striving for accelerated progress in ESG realms. We live by our mission ‘Happiest People make Happiest Customers’, which prioritizes the well- being and professional development of our team members and our Happiest People have helped us to get Happiest Customers. We are delighted to be recognized by the Great Places to Work Institute through several accolades and these include the Top 50 workplaces for IT and IT BPM, Building a Culture of Innovation. Thirdly, Best Places for Women, this is the third time in a row that we've got this and the Best Places for Health and Wellness.
I extend my sincere thanks to our customers for their continued trust and confidence in Happiest Minds, as well as to our delivery teams for continuously delivering customers happiness. I also want to thank all our support teams whose efforts have contributed to these achievements. My gratitude goes also to our
| Board of Directors, shareholders and all our stakeholders for your supportve guidance. Let me now take up something which was not a part of my original speech and this is pertaining to this sale of some part of my Happiest Minds shares which has led to a decline in share prices. A few of you have also writen to me inquiring why I have sold some of these shares, partcularly since the Company is now really poised to have an absolutely excellent year, probably our best year since the IPO and things are generally looking good. You will remember that on an early occasion also, I had writen to the shareholders informing you about the creaton of SKAN, this is my not-for-proft medical research trust and also Happiest Health. I am happy to advise that both these insttutons are on their way to becoming great workplaces. However, the growth of both of these requires signifcant amount of funds and this has necessitated the sale of the shares which has just taken place. The decline in share price is on account of the transacton, whereas the price prior to the transacton refected our performance. When the market sees our results, the share prices should start correctng. Though I can understand the feeling of unhappiness in the minds of many who would have seen this decline in our price, I want to, with this, assure you that my commitment to you and Happiest Minds is unwavering and I remain confdent of achieving our vision of achieving a billion dollar revenue goal by 2031. Let me conclude by wishing you all good health, success and happiness. Thank you. I now request Mr. Venkatraman to make a presentaton to the members on theperformance of the companyduringthe fnancialyear endingMarch 31,2024. |
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| Moderator | One minute Sir. We are uploading the presentaton. |
| Venkatraman Narayanan |
Thank you, Moderator. Thanks, Ashok. Good evening to all present on this call. I hope all of you have had a chance to go through our Integrated Annual Report for the year which was dispatched earlier this month. We have covered, in great detail, both the qualitatve and quanttatve parts of our Company and business in great detail. I will now give you an update on the fscal year and then quickly hand it over back to our Chairman. Your Company ended the year returning a total income of Rs. 1,710 Crores showing a growth of 17.9%. Operatng revenues in USD are 196 Million showing a growth of about 11% and very close to our guidance of 12%. EBITDA for the year at Rs. 421 Crores, showed a growth of 11%. As a percentage to revenues, it was at 24.6% and beatng the upper band of our margin guidance of 22% to 24%. We were able to sustain our margins despite the pressures we faced on account of pay increases, and also the contnued payout of variable pay. Proft Before Tax was at Rs. 335 Crores and 19.6% of revenues. Proft Before Tax has shown a growth of 8%. Proft Afer Tax came in at Rs. 248 Crores, 14.5% of revenues showing a growth of 7.5% over thepreviousyear. So,asyou can see in all metrics we havegrown and we |
| have grown consistently. Our metrics of profts to cash conversions remain healthy and strong. At year end we held cash balances of about Rs. 1,364 Crores including the Rs. 500 Crores we had raised during the year through a QIP and the Rs. 125 Crores we raised through the issue of non-convertble debentures. Coming to some operatonal highlights, we ended the year with 250 customers and a net add of 13 during the year. During the year, we crossed a signifcant Smilestone of 5000 Happiest Minds. We have shown a good net additon during the year of 251 Happiest Minds. Our utlizaton for the year was about 76.7% and the drop over the previous year was mainly on account of the investment we have done into the new business unit which is a GBS business unit of and our campus joiners. This is a defnite learner for us to improve as we go into the next year. Atriton on a trailing 20 month basis has dropped to 13% compared to the 19.8% in the previous year. We expect these numbers to trend at these levels. Finally, keeping in with our progressive dividend policy and capital allocaton discussion, the Board has recommended a fnal dividend of Rs. 3.25 per share subject to shareholders’ approval at this AGM. On approval, our total dividend for the year will be Rs. 5.75 per equity share. Now, looking ahead, as you may have notced from our announcements post year end, we started FY ‘25 with the announcement of the acquisiton of three companies on a back-to-back basis. PureSofware Technologies with the revenue of USD 44 million, Aureus Tech Systems with revenue of about USD 8.25 million and the third company being the ofshore development center of Macmillan. These acquisitons add signifcant capabilites and revenues to our Healthcare, BFSI and EduTech vertcals. The three companies add about 1,400 Happiest Minds to our fast-growing family. While growth through inorganic means is part of our stated objectve and forms an integral part of our vision to being a billion-dollar enterprise by 2031, your Company is contnuing to fuel and focus on organic growth by contnuing to invest in vertcals, people, centers of excellence, new capabilites and of course the new business unit of Generatve AI. I come to the end of my brief report and hand the proceedings back to our Chairman. |
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| Chairman | Thank you, Venkat. I now request the Company Secretary to provide a summary of the Auditor's Report. |
| Company Secretary |
Thank you, Ashok. The Statutory Auditors, Deloite Haskins and Sells LLP and the Secretarial Auditor V. Sreedharan and Associates have expressed an unqualifed opinion in their respectve audit reports for the fnancial year ended March 31, 2024. There were no qualifcatons, observatons or adverse comments on fnancial statements and maters which have any material bearing on the functoning of the Company. Copies of the Statutory Auditor's report and Secretarial Audit report are enclosed as part of the Annual Report. Thank you. Over toyou,Ashok. |
| Chairman | As the Notce and Annual Report is already circulated to all the members, I take the notce Statutory Auditor's Report, Secretarial Audit Report and Board's Report as read. We will now take out the resolutons as set forth in the notce. Item No.1- To receive, consider and adopt the Audited Standalone Financial Statements of the Company for the fnancial year ended March 31, 2024, together with the Reports of the Board of Directors and the Auditors thereon. Item No.2- To receive, consider and adopt the Audited Consolidated Financial Statements of the Company for the fnancial year ended March 31, 2024, together with the Report of the Auditors thereon. Item No.3- To declare a fnal dividend of Rs. 3.25 per share on equity shares for the fnancial year ended March 31, 2024. Item No.4- To appoint a Director in place of Mr. Venkatraman Narayanan who retres by rotaton and being eligible, ofers himself for reappointment. Item No.5- To reappoint myself, Mr. Ashok Soota, who has already atained the age of 70 years as Whole-tme Director, designated as Executve Chairman for a further period of fve years from April 1, 2024 to March 31, 2029 on the existng terms and conditons. Item No.6- To approve enhancement of Loans/Investments limits under Secton 186 of the Act to Rs. 2,500 Crores only, over and above the limits prescribed under the Act. Since all the resolutons have already been put to vote through remote e-votng, there will be no proposing and seconding of the resolutons and there will be no votng by show of hands. At the end, 15 minutes for further votng will be provided.If any member desires to ask any questons pertaining to any item on the Notce, he or she may do so now. Members are requested to keep their questons brief and specifc. The moderator will facilitate the ‘Queston and Answer’ session. Over to the Moderator. |
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| Moderator | Thank you, Sir. The frst speaker is Mrs. Celestne Elizabeth Mascarenhas. Mrs. Celestne Elizabeth Mascarenhas! Please unmute yourself and ask your queston, ma'am. |
| Celestine Elizabeth Mascarenhas |
Hello. Am I audible? |
| Moderator | Yeah, ma’am! |
| Celestine Elizabeth Mascarenhas |
Yes. Respected Chairman, Mr. Ashok Soota, other members of the Board, my dear fellow shareholders who are in this virtual meet. I am Mrs. C. Mascarenhas. I'm speaking from Mumbai. First of all, I thank the Company Secretary, Mr. Praveen Kumar Darshankar and his team for sending me an E-Annual Report, on also registering me as a speaker and thanks to the KFin Tech platorm. Now Annual Report is very exhaustve with full of facts and fgures, self-explanatory and adhering to all the norms of corporate governance. Now, my queries. I am very happy we have done the ESG ratng. I would like to know who the ESG agency is with whom we have rated the ESG. I understand we are also listed on some dedicated ESG platorm. Could you give some more light in color in this mater? Second query is we are in the BFSI, Educaton, Technology, Healthcare, Life sciences, Hi-Tech and Media and Entertainment, in Industrial, Manufacturing and other utlites, Retail, CPG and Logistcs. So, I would like to know in which vertcal we are getng good growth in revenue and also in the margins. Third queston, do we have dedicated R&D team and how many staf are there in this R&D and what is the atriton level? The next queston, how many total staf and what is the average age of your employees? Lastly, but not the least, future roadmap for the next fve years. Whether CapEx will be required for acquisiton, for inorganic growth and which vertcal will do very well according to the management team? With this I support all the resolutons. I wish my Company all the best. Thank you forgivingme apatent hearing. |
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| Chairman | Thank you very much and it is a pleasure always to have you with us as invariably as our very frst person to come on. And it's a delight to hear your questons. Also, I am going to pass the majority of these over to Venkat and you can sort of take them up serially, Venkat. On the market positon, I can ask Rajiv to talk about the areas which are going to grow and we expect everyone to grow, but there are clearly some areas which are going to have a higher momentum behind us, partly because of our acquisitons and partly because of the new trust that we have on many areas in healthcare. On the R&D part, I will add to any response that you may give,Venkat. So,Venkat,over toyou. Startngwith the ESG issue. |
| Venkatraman Narayanan |
Sir, the frst queston was on the agency we have ted up to put our ESG profle together. We have ted up with well-known frm called ESG World. They have given our ESG ratng and profle on our website. So, you can access the entre results of our ESG compared to the global standards on our website. And that has been facilitated byESG World. In fact,EcoWise is,and there are other ratngfrms who |
| have tried to rate, who have ratng scales and you can google the report to see how we perform against each of those ratng agencies and their individual scales. So that's something that's been provided on our website. We are also giving quite a bit of informaton on ESG in our balance sheet as well. The second queston was on the number of people. I had covered that in my quick talk. We ended the year with 5,000 people. That is our own Happiest Minds. Along with that, we have added now close to 1,500 people through the acquisitons, the three acquisitons that we talked about. I would like to clarify that Macmillan was more of a consolidaton vendor, consolidaton in our favor, but it was structured, you know, from a legal standpoint as an acquisiton. So, I wouldn't want to call it an acquisiton, but from a regulatory standpoint, it's three companies. So, we are today 6,500 plus Happiest Minds spread across the world and between the three companies that have joined hands with us. The thirdqueston was on the number of…. |
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| Chairman | R&D, Venkat. About Vertcals and then R&D? |
| Venkatraman Narayanan |
Yeah, if I were to give you the vertcals, we have given details of this in our Investor Presentaton. EduTech is the largest vertcal for us, 24% and followed by Hi-Tech at 14.5%, then Healthcare at 14.4% and Travel, Media and Entertainment at about 12%. So those are the four large vertcals. But afer this acquisiton of PureSofware and Aureus, almost 45% of PureSofware is split in the vertcal of BFSI and the balance is split between Hi-Tech, which is at about 10%; and again, Healthcare is about 45%. Aureus is almost 80% BFSI and 20% Healthcare. So, like I said, once we consolidate the results of PureSofware and Aureus into our business, we should have three equal sized vertcals, which is Edutech, BFSI and Healthcare. And pulling in almost $50 Million and of a substantal size for us. It de-risks our presence. If you look at it, Edutech is at 24%. It de-risks and brings Edutech, Hi-Tech, BFSI and Healthcare on a similar kind of a number. With respect to the vertcal that's likely to grow, we are seeing very good tracton in Healthcare. Ashok did refer to the work that we are doing on bio-informatcs and similar. So Healthcare is a vertcal that we are seeing good growth. BFSI, thanks to the acquisitons and the capabilites that we are adding to our competencies and we are seeing good growth in BFSI as well. Edutech, we have been showing consistent performance and we are happy to say that whenever we go into pitch for a new client in that vertcal, we really get the pride of place. We are called in for almost all RFPs. And we are favorably considered vis-a-vis competton. So, while it's our largest vertcal, it also contnues to do reasonably well and also brings in its new set of customers that we see as we progress. Retail, CPG, Industrial and Manufacturing are the three other vertcals which are likely to seegoodprogress as we look into the next fveyears. So alongwith the three |
| vertcals that we talked about, we are seeing very good growth in Manufacturing, Industrial and Retail and CPG. |
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| Chairman | We could ask Rajiv, to add to this, I think you covered them very comprehensively and Rajiv mayspecifcallywant to talk about GBS. |
| Rajiv Shah | Yeah, thanks Ashok and thanks, Venkat. So, while Venkat and Chairman highlighted the vertcalizaton, we are seeing a lot of opportunites in our Generatve AI business as well. So, a lot of the things that we do, and I will answer the queston in two parts. One is that we have undertaken the task to train all of our individuals at Happiest Minds and our goal is to train all 6,000 of them. So, that is part of the investments we are making them to really take advantage of the newer technologies. If you look at the Generatve AI and AI business at all, there are a lot of horizontal set of processes that we are currently addressing. We are seeing signifcant growth in the retail CPG world. We are seeing signifcant growth in streamlining HR processes, fnance processes, etc. And all of these solutons are replicable across industry segments. So, the solutons that we have built for a large botlers is applicable to another manufacturing and industrial company as well. So, I think the ability to build, we have internally built close to 500 use cases which are applicable. Healthcare contnues to grow. We are seeing signifcant growth in that area as well. So overall, it is a well-rounded growth with signifcant focus on Generatve AI. We see this opportunity and disrupton really driving signifcant growth for Happiest Minds as well. |
| Chairman | Thank you, Rajiv. Venkat, the next queston was on whether we have a dedicated R&D team, and you may want to just touch on what percentage of our sales come from IP-led businesses. |
| Venkatraman Narayanan |
Correct. So, we do not have a dedicated R&D, which is typical of medical and manufacturing companies. But what happens is our Centers of Excellence and the capability centers that we have, competency centers that we have, they have a reasonable amount of senior resources working on ahead-of-tme technologies. So, if you look at our workforce, we have created quite a bit of frameworks and internal IP which we use in deploying our solutons in areas of Internet of Things, DevOps, Robotc Process Automaton, communicaton networking, storage virtualizaton, consumer electronics, automotve segments, and even security and infrastructure areas. So quite a bit of work happens within these competency groups and Centers of Excellence, which is even Analytcs and Generatve AI that Rajiv just talked about. The work that we do ahead of tme is what really we call out as R&D. But this R&D is not typically ted to something like what a medical or a manufacturing company typically talks about R&D. Now, close to 9% of our revenues comes from IP-led services. So, this is where we showcase our capabilites in these areas that I talked about and then put ourselves into the customer and then follow through with quite a bit of follow on work that's done there. So that's what we call as IP-led services. And that is only possible because |
| of the ahead-of-tme investments that we make in research and development or I would sayresearch or efortput into these new technologies ahead of tme. |
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| Chairman | Venkat I'll add a bit on bio-informatcs, though. Here we are working with absolutely leading edge, you know, research enttes globally, that includes Quadrum Biosciences, SKAN, another insttute in Bangalore called MindSculpt Analytcs, and we are developing for them, products which can be very revolutonary. The diference is that here the R&D does not belong to us. It belongs to the party for whom we are working, but it is really solid R&D related work which the customer could not have got from anybody other than us. And that is how they have approached us for it. You could go on Venkat and talk about the average age unless you have Sachin there. And then there is something about the future road where I can wrapupagain bytalkingabout our vision. |
| Venkatraman Narayanan |
The average age, I'll have to get back to you, Madam. We will get Suhas and secretarial team. |
| Chairman | We don't have Sachin with us? |
| Venkatraman Narayanan |
No, Sachin is not there with me Ashok. |
| Chairman | Okay. Anyway, maybe even while we are on the line somebody can search it out for us and get back what we are doing. Then there is a bit on the future road ahead and I guess I can very briefy cover that. So, you know, Madam, as we have been saying, we actually are very enthused about the outlook for the Company. We do see that the current year is going to be our highest growth here. Obviously a part of that is very large part of that is going to be inorganic. And therefore with that, we feel we are well on our way to achieving our goal of being a billion-dollar company by FY 2031. We have actually reduced the compounded average growth rate that was required when we made the announcement we needed. And I don't have the exact numbers readily available, but it has come down by about 3%. So, we are well on that path. And of course we are seeing all the new developments. We do see that we are taking a leading positon on GenAI which is revolutonizing the market and the fact that we have got a lot of solid capabilites through the new acquisitons, that will add synergy. They expanded our geographical presence and therefore the summary of saying that the outlook has never looked beter than it has or looks now looking ahead. So, thank you very much and we can move on to the next queston. |
| Moderator | The next speaker is Mr. Sachin Nemana Badnikai. Mr. Sachin Nemana Badnikai, please unmute yourself and ask your queston. Sir, there is no response from Mr. Sachin. The next speaker is Mr. Ramesh Shankar Golla. |
| Chairman | Okay |
| Ramesh Shankar Golla |
Hello |
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| Chairman | Yeah, go ahead. |
| Moderator | You are audible, Sir. |
| Ramesh Shankar Golla |
Thank you. Good evening, Ashok Soota Ji and Venkatraman Ji , all of my Company, Board of Directors and fellow shareholders. Very happy to be here Sir, because आप इतना साल म भी इतन, 70 yearsम भीcompanyक ललए बहत अचछा काम कर रह ह, with efciency. Sir,मराqueston.य आनवाला सालो मCapExककतना बढगा? How many companies for merging, in future? Any on the process is there? Our R&Dम ककतनाemployeesकाम कर रह ह? Sir,आपabroadम जोacquisitonsहआ ना,the three companies, how many employees is there, Sir?यemployeesक बार म कौनसा कदम रख,वो भी बोल दीजजए.उनहोनhealthक ललए.वो भी बोल दीजजए. |
| Chairman | Okay Ramesh. Thank you very much for your questons. |
| Ramesh Shankar Golla |
Sir,आपक,यBangaloreआए तो लमलनकाplease.मरक हा करददए तो बहत अचछा रहता. Sir. Also,मरकAnnual Reportचार साल का होना. Please.हमारा जोPraveen Kumar Jiह नाnoteकर तो बहत अचछा रहता. And secretarial department is very good.सभीकhats of to you Sir. God blesses all. Sir, I am Rame Shankar Golla speakingfrom Hyderabad. |
| Chairman | Thank you. Thank you, Ramesh.म अपना एMr. Venkatramanको ही बोल दगा सार सवालो का आपका जवाब द दग. |
| Venkatraman Narayanan |
Thank you, Ashok. Sir, on the R&D part I had covered it earlier in queston in the answer to Madam Celestne where I said that quite a bit of our work or R&D spend happens within the competencies and the CoEs and almost 90% of our revenues come from IP-led services. And this IP that we create are frameworks and ahead- of-tme capabilites and that is all of investment that happens within our Company. The second queston was on CapEx. This is something that Madam Celestne also had asked. See, as an IT services company we do not have CapEx like those in the manufacturing sector where the maximum that we spend are on sofware and on hardware. Hardware, sofware and maybe also interiors for seatng. So, this is not something which is very signifcant. You can on an annual basis refresh of about 3000 to 4000 machines and additon of space in line with our people. So, that is the only CapEx that we have. And sometmes we may also have to buy, instead of leasing we may buy the facilites that we occupy. As far as investment in new companies is concerned for acquisiton, you know this is one of the resolutons that has been put to vote today. As per the Companies Act, Secton 186, we had a total outlayof Rs. 1,300 Crores,based on our capital and free reserves. We have |
| today invested cumulatvely from the day we incorporated today, Rs. 1,200 and odd Crores in acquiring companies or acquiring businesses. So, which is why we have now come back to the shareholders for additonal limit of another Rs. 1,200 Crores, taking the cumulatve limit of investments that we can do in other companies to 2,500 Crores. So, this money that we are talking about is to acquire companies and to grow through acquisitons. That is the real capital expenditure, if you can call it that we have in terms of cash deployment. We talked about people overseas. Close to 95% of our people are based in India. So, we ended the year with about 5000 people and about to 5% of those are outside India. So that's about, approximately between 200 to 250 people outside India in our business. Otherwise almost all our rest of the business which is of- shore is from India and which is about 4,750 people. So, Mr. Ramesh, I think with that I have answered allyourquestons. |
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| Company Secretary |
Ashok! In the meantme, I had checked with Sachin, on the average age. It is 32 years. |
| Chairman | Okay. It's stll very young company but also higher than the number I remembered last tme we took stock. Which is inevitable. |
| Moderator | Sir, should we go to the next queston? |
| Chairman | Yeah |
| Moderator | Mr. Rajesh Kewalram Chainani. Mr. Rajesh Kewalram Chainani. Please unmute yourself and askyourqueston,Sir. |
| Rajesh Kewalram Chainani |
Hello. Am I audible Sir? |
| Moderator | Yes Sir. You are audible. |
| Rajesh Kewalram Chainani |
Respected Chairman Ashok Soota Ji, Venkatraman Ji and a very highly distnguished and eminent Board of Directors, my fellow shareholders. My name is Rajesh Chainani. I am speaking from Vile Parle, West Mumbai. First of all, I thank our Company Secretary for sending the email notce well on tme. And today also I got a call for atending the AGM. So, I really appreciate the good work done by the secretarial department, because this is the department which is a link between the shareholders and the Board. |
| Chairman | Very True |
| Rajesh Kewalram Chainani |
Sir, my query is regarding the share capital is Rs. 29 crores and the reserves are very good, Rs. 1442 crores. So, though it is a young company Sir, don't you feel like it is a high tme we should come up with some bonus or something? Because the price of a share this year was Rs.738 low which went high to Rs. 1,019 and today it is Rs. 818. But the lifetme high is Rs. 1,580. So Sir, I would defnitely like to see my company in four fgures plus, because the performance is very good. So, this is my thing. |
| And Sir, I would like to ask the promoter holding is a 50.24% if I'm not mistaken and the public holding is 40.58%. So, there was a news that the holding was sold but the SEBI has permited us to take the promoter holding to 75% maximum. So, is there any restricton regarding that, like from the SEBI side that you should take the…What is the tmeframe like? You should make it to 75%. So, I just, as a layman I am asking you. So, if you can just throw the light on this. And I have supported all the resolutons,bythe way. |
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| Chairman | Thank you. Praveen! Maybe since I have already explained the issue about my share sale and there is some technical questons he has asked, perhaps you can address that issue. |
| Company Secretary |
Yeah. Actually, Rajesh Ji, the restricton by SEBI is on the promoter holding to be 75% maximum. Now, in our case, Ashok Soota is holding less than that. So, there will not be any queston of reducing further or anything like that, from SEBI’s perspectve. Yeah. Now, on the bonus and other things, I think, Venkatraman is going to address it. |
| Venkatraman Narayanan |
On the owner shares, it is based on the capital allocaton strategy that we work on with the Board. So that is something that will get evaluated on a basis, along with our dividend. So, dividend, bonus, capital expansion, these are all looked at on a consolidated basis by the Company. Today we have a fairly large share capital with a large set of investors, 7,33,000 people. So that is, the base is quite large. There are things that we need to get done to make sure that we keep in mind with the dividend policy. And then also look in line with how we can capitalize some of our reserves to issue further bonus shares. Just to add, the queston I thought was Mr. Soota Ji held 50.3% untl recently. And like he said in his speech, he had to dilute. He diluted about 6% of that for the purpose of raising capital or funds for the not-for-proft engagement that he has. So, from 50.3% he has come to about 44.3%. Like he said, he doesn't have any immediate plans or he doesn't intend to do any more any further sale. This sale was done for apurpose and that is what it will be applied for. |
| Moderator | Sir, the next speaker is Mr. Yusuf Yunus Rangwala. Mr. Yusuf Yunus Rangwala, please unmute yourself and ask your queston. No response, Sir. The next speaker is Mr. Gaurav Liladhar Rozatkar. Mr. Gaurav Liladhar Rozatkar, please unmute yourself and ask your queston. No response, Sir. The next speaker is Mr. Anandu Vithal Nayak. Mr. Anandu Vithal Nayak, please unmute yourself and ask your queston. Sir, no response, Sir. |
| The next speaker is Mr. Manjit Singh. No response. Sir, the next speaker is Mr. Kaushik Narendra Sahukar. Mr. Kaushik Narendra Sahukar, please unmute yourself and ask your queston Sir. No response, Sir. Mr. Sachin Nemane Badnikai, please unmute and ask your queston. No response, Sir. That concludes the speaker's list,Sir. |
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| Chairman | Okay |
| Moderator | Over to you. |
| Chairman | I thank all the members for their queries and views. As mentoned earlier, the members who have not already cast their vote by means of e-votng may do so now, through Insta-Poll which will be available for the next 15 minutes. V. Sreedharan and Associates, Company Secretaries has been appointed as the Scrutnizer to report on the combined votng results of remote e-votng and the Insta-poll. The results will be declared and submited to the stock exchanges within 48 hours from the conclusion of this meetng and disseminated on the Company's website along with Scrutnizer's Report. I authorize the Company Secretary to do the needful. Resolutons as set forth in the notce shall be deemed to be passed today subject to receipt of requisite number of votes. With this, the 13th AGM comes to an end. I'm grateful to all the members who have taken to tme to join this meetng. With your permission, I hereby declare the proceedings as closed. Thankyou. |
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